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Re: Help to destroy IS-2s
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2012, 12:02:38 AM »
But considering its range, this is the epitome of tanks that should be kept at maximum distance. The Hummel too!

Hell, with good micro, the Nashorn shouldn't even get scratched. Least of all by slower tanks like the IS-2.
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Re: Help to destroy IS-2s
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2012, 02:17:51 AM »
Get some Panzerschreck Grens or storms and vet them,is2 is bad vs infantry.
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Re: Help to destroy IS-2s
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2012, 10:05:21 AM »
Get some Panzerschreck Grens or storms and vet them,is2 is bad vs infantry.

This is what I do but losing 4 Gren squads is not an option. Im currently learning how to micro 2 tanks effectively and simultaneously. 2 Panthers is the best way to go. The players I fight are extremely good at tank micro. They can take down 2 of my Panthers with 1 IS-2. He can take my Nashorn and my AT guns gets killed by the guards/mortars/firebase. I have some improvment by killing IS-2s with 2 Panthers but usually I lose both.

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Re: Help to destroy IS-2s
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2012, 11:21:17 AM »
Maybe you need blitzcrieg ability for help ?

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Re: Help to destroy IS-2s
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2012, 02:20:31 AM »
Sounds like your enemy is using combined arms :), you should provide a replay for us to watch.
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Re: Help to destroy IS-2s
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2012, 03:09:43 AM »
This is what I do but losing 4 Gren squads is not an option. Im currently learning how to micro 2 tanks effectively and simultaneously. 2 Panthers is the best way to go. The players I fight are extremely good at tank micro. They can take down 2 of my Panthers with 1 IS-2. He can take my Nashorn and my AT guns gets killed by the guards/mortars/firebase. I have some improvment by killing IS-2s with 2 Panthers but usually I lose both.

Don't put too much effort into microing 2 tanks at once.  IMO with tank micro, just master control grouping, and also how to backpedal if needed and it'll be enough.

With tanks (and CoH in general), its more about deciding whether to engage or not that matters most.  Think of it like a Texas Holdem game, where the good tank commanders usually decide to either fold or just go all in.  If you add in infantry with your tank charges, you got yourself a full house instead of just a pair of kings (just tanks).  Try not to do half-ass tank charges (call and then fold) too much.  When its time to show hand, if you have a stronger hand than him, you'll win 90% of the time, provided you're not a total noob with the units.

That's my own personal CoH philosophy in general.  It's important to know that what I call "Decisive Battle Doctrine" is just my own personal playstyle, and there's plenty more ways to play CoH.  I'm just trying to give some suggestions here  I never lose at the casino btw.   ;)
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Re: Help to destroy IS-2s
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2012, 08:50:08 AM »
Gotten better vs my friend. Can get his IS-2s no prob. Other people though, they can still sidestep my AT defense with thier IS-2 and constantly babysit it to destroy my 2 Panthers.  >:( Mines are okay but I need to finish him off. When I detrack the IS-2 he goes Katyushas on me. Another player suprised me with 2 T-34/85s

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Re: Help to destroy IS-2s
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2012, 01:44:52 PM »
This is what I do but losing 4 Gren squads is not an option. Im currently learning how to micro 2 tanks effectively and simultaneously. 2 Panthers is the best way to go. The players I fight are extremely good at tank micro. They can take down 2 of my Panthers with 1 IS-2. He can take my Nashorn and my AT guns gets killed by the guards/mortars/firebase. I have some improvment by killing IS-2s with 2 Panthers but usually I lose both.

Don't put too much effort into microing 2 tanks at once.  IMO with tank micro, just master control grouping, and also how to backpedal if needed and it'll be enough.

With tanks (and CoH in general), its more about deciding whether to engage or not that matters most.  Think of it like a Texas Holdem game, where the good tank commanders usually decide to either fold or just go all in.  If you add in infantry with your tank charges, you got yourself a full house instead of just a pair of kings (just tanks).  Try not to do half-ass tank charges (call and then fold) too much.  When its time to show hand, if you have a stronger hand than him, you'll win 90% of the time, provided you're not a total noob with the units.

That's my own personal CoH philosophy in general.  It's important to know that what I call "Decisive Battle Doctrine" is just my own personal playstyle, and there's plenty more ways to play CoH.  I'm just trying to give some suggestions here  I never lose at the casino btw.   ;)

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Re: Help to destroy IS-2s
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2012, 04:41:46 PM »
Huh?

What Yauz says about committing your tanks is true. Either go in or don't. If you go in a bit and back out he will know where your tanks are and they will take unnecessary damage. Reversing tanks properly is an essential skill for when you need it. Not sure if I agree about group micro though. :P
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Re: Help to destroy IS-2s
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2012, 05:22:40 PM »
Huh?

What Yauz says about committing your tanks is true. Either go in or don't. If you go in a bit and back out he will know where your tanks are and they will take unnecessary damage. Reversing tanks properly is an essential skill for when you need it. Not sure if I agree about group micro though. :P

Yea I'm not a fan of grouping tanks, increases the vulnerability that you lose one if not necessary and you lose the ability to flank.

I like to think I have decent tank micro and have a better opportunity with them than with infantry sometimes.

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Re: Help to destroy IS-2s
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2012, 06:07:28 PM »
I'm glad the Tiger Ace got buffed (thank god it was now beast) once you get it, they counter IS2s and even the IS3 pretty well especially if you spam their 'Ace Shot' ability you can kite them even then.
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Re: Help to destroy IS-2s
« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2012, 03:43:59 AM »
I'm glad the Tiger Ace got buffed (thank god it was now beast) once you get it, they counter IS2s and even the IS3 pretty well especially if you spam their 'Ace Shot' ability you can kite them even then.

Yeah, Tiger ace is good now. IS-2 is broken though. My opponents right now just makes 4 T-34/85s and kites the Tiger Ace to oblivion. 2 Sturmovie s with assault gear took down gren squads -_- Im just gonna go play Soviets. Im not really that good with Wehr  :P