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« on: February 16, 2010, 04:40:57 AM »
there NOT changing the old factions......how many times does it have to be said
The Developers have already admitted that they changed the limit of doctrine call in units you can have at the one time Eg, A US player can call in a max of three Airborne Paratrooper squads at one time etc. A PE player can have a max of 2 hummels on the field at the same time etc. So they have clearly in a way changed the old factions No, that was an unfortunate side effect of the modified AI that we weren't aware of. And no, we're not rebalancing/fixing or whatever you want to call it the other factions. Never. So what was your point again? That we shouldn't expected at least barely balanced game at the release date? Partly because it's free right? If you think that the things could be bugged/broken because they're free look at the open source. It was you who told us that the mod will be balanced and that there were beta tests etc. (yeah I'm aware of "conditions" back then and I don't blame you) there is no point of multi player game release without a balance (right, relic did it). I really do appreciate all the time the dev team spend on it but tbh 1.0 was a joke although 1.04 looks promising and what's important came out fast.
plz try to cooperate with respective players, there are plenty of them on the community sites like gr.org Zerstörer -Sorry, I pressed modify instead of reply and screwed up the post by mistake
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« on: February 11, 2010, 04:28:47 AM »
For the last couple of days, all I have seen are skirmishes against the Axis AI, as it seems everybody knows that they are not going to get anyone joining the game to play as Axis, which I think is largely due to realisation that the Russians were initially overpowered and perception that it gives the Allies greater options in large team games with the ability to choose combined units from 3 factions rather than that Axis 2.
Currently the mod to me is balanced, and yet it seems that no one still wants to play as Axis. So I think the best thing to do would be to finalise the design of the Ostheer faction and have it in beta for play and balance testing as quickly as possible. Especially with some extensive testing on the 3v3 & 4v4 games, which is completley different to the 1v1 & 2v2 testing. Though I understand is hard, because of the lack of beta testers online and free to join the one game at the same time
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« on: February 04, 2010, 03:29:05 AM »
For me it is easily hands down Erich Von Manstein, though I don’t know how you can have a best commander poll without him even nominated.
The only other time any Allied commander achieved so much success, with limited resources against a numerically superior opponent would be O’Connor in North Africa 1940, though because of his capture never seems to rate a mention, despite being one of the most successful campaigns in history.
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« on: January 25, 2010, 02:05:53 AM »
Band of 3-4 snipers fears nothing in fight vs early infantry. EVEN if my brave soldiers ( LOL) could get closer - flame engineers burn them very quick.
4 snipers and two Pio squads with flamers is 1600 manpower and 100 munitions. Just for the manpower that is 8 squads of conscripts or 64 men! each of the snipers will only be able to get off one shot at long range before the conscripts will be on them. So the wehr player will be forced to retreat, or lose everything within seconds. Which means the Russian player sends the half damaged squad to back cap and/or then cheaply reinforce, and leaves the other 7 squads to run forward and cap everything, denying the wher player any resources for abilities or to tech up. At the same time though, I do think the Russians need a unit that can detect snipers more easily at a short range
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« on: January 19, 2010, 05:27:34 AM »
Most German generals believed that there would be peace after the fall of France, but the mistakes made afterwards and the invasion of Russia prevented it. There is also the contended point that Russia would have attacked Germany no matter what. There is ample evidence that the enormous German gains at the opening of Barbarossa were a direct result of attacking on the eve of a Russian invasion of Germany. Russian troops were caught out of position while readying their own invasion and taken by surprise. There is supposedly a large amount of evidence in the form of orders and communications records that support this.
I was just wondering if you had any sources that I could read up on about this (in English). Everything I have read says that yes Stalin was interested in launching an attack, though much further down the track, and that he was extremely paranoid about his staff creating any such potential plans, in case they go leaked to the Germans, who would obviously see it as a case of agression, and attack before they were ready.
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« on: January 19, 2010, 04:47:15 AM »
I do think though that there are two events which could've given Germany victory.
People have always criticized Hitler’s move to split the panzer armies from army group centre. By sending Guderian south to Kiev and bagging 660,000 prisoners before Moscow had been taken. This had its obvious advantages, but one thing that I have never seen discussed is what instead of instead of sending those panzers and panzer grenadier division north to Leningrad, if they had of used them to continue the advance on Moscow from the northern flank? To me, in sending them to Leningrad they could have been a use to help any assault, though he didn’t opt for this and instead sieged it so that the Russians would be burdened rather than them, by the need to feed the massive civilian population over winter. To me if he had of ordered the assault and the city fell, it would of freed up an enormous amount of troops necessary to go on to Moscow the following spring, whilst bagging over 500,000+ prisoners, I know about then having to feed the civilians but to me this would of been worth the effort.
So to me he should have either let them continue to Moscow while it was largely undefended, or take the casualties losses in an assault on Leningrad.
The 2nd grand mistake was in operation blue (the 1942 offensive into the causacus). When the Germans were advancing towards Stalingrad they encountered virtually no resistance, so Hitler ordered the 4th Panzer army to crossover the path of Paulus's 6th Army group and head towards the Baku oilfields. What resulted was vehicles being congested, breaking down, units taking the wrong roads etc, and as a result Paulus's advance was virtually brought to a standstill for 3 weeks. And it was only in these last 3 weeks that the Russians built their defences and were reinforced around Stalingrad, hence had they not been delayed, they would of easily defeated the Russians there just like they did for every other major city. The reason why this is so important is not because of the reduced German casualties in men and tanks (who would also now be freed to counter any Russian historical envelopment attacks). But because the Volga was the only way left for the Russians to ferry all of their fuel being produced from the Baku oil fields into Russia. And with the Germans now easily able to prevent any ferries going up the river, Russia's economy/armies would of been brought to a standstill, and Stalin would have been forced to surrender.
Other contributing but not sole factors I think were Hitler’s decision not to put the economy onto a full time war production until after Feb 1943 was pretty dumb.
The Germans had the necessary winter clothing for the men, at the rail yards, but due to the extremely limited amount of trains that they were able to operate, it was a decision of "do we send them ammunition/fuel or clothes?". So it may very well of been Russia's use of different size gauge rail tracks that won them the war.
Though I wouldn’t entirely blame Hitler for their defeat either. Up until October 1942 he had achieved outstanding success in Europe, that is highly unlikely to of been unmatched by any other individual. He was able to lift Germany’s economy from the great depression and huge debt owed to the Allies for WW1, and it was he who encouraged and approved the blitzkrieg doctrine, against the advice of nearly all his senior army staff. He was responsible for the promotion and greater responsibilities given to relatively unknown generals in Von Manstein, Guderian, Rommel etc, and did away with the trench warfare loving old guard generals. He went for the close bomber support over the favoured strategic bombing (which was post-war realised to have been grossly over exaggerated). He favoured submarines over a surface fleet wanted by the admirals. He annexed Austria and Czechoslovakia without a shot fired, an amazing political manoeuvre.
Many thought Poland would withstand the German attack for 6 months (is why the French did not react initially), yet Hitler chose the plan responsible for Poland’s surrender in a matter of 5 weeks.
The senior German staff wanted to re-use the schliffein plan to invade France, though Hitler overrode them and went with the unknown commander Erich Von Mansteins plan with a few adjustments. A stroke of genius. Also at the time very few could criticize him for the halt order at Dunkirk. The German high command had wanted to halt Guderian’s advance for a number of days preceding it, however Hitler overrode them and let Guderian continue to make the Dunkirk encirclement even possible. In addition, the terrain was notoriously bad for tank warfare/movement, and France was still far from beaten, so he still needed all of his tanks to ensure victory against the French who were easily considered to have the greatest army in the world at the time.
What’s more is that he was right to consider Africa a complete sideshow, and the men and supplies were of much greater importance on the Russian front. As even if Germany did capture the middle east, they and the Italians combined didn’t have enough of a merchant fleet to ship any of the oil back to Europe for refinement and actual use.
In the face of the soviets 1941 winter counter offensives, every German general wanted abandon all their vehicles and equipment to withdraw hundreds of miles, however Hitler ordered them to adopt a hedgehog style of defence which amazingly held the line, with few combat casualties. And Historians have since believed that if the generals had of got their way, that not only would they have lost vast amounts of vital equipment but also that their troops would have been cut down and suffered numerously more thousands of casualties to frostbite. Then the decision to not allow the Stalingrad pocket to escape, whilst costly, was believed to have saved the entire Southern Group A (2-3 times larger than Army group 6) As it forced 7 Russian army groups to dig in around and tie down the German 6th army at Stalingrad, preventing the Russians from marching on to the undefended city of Rostov and cutting off and annihilating all of Army Group A, which was still trying to retreat as quickly from deep within the Caucasus. Coupled with the previous winters successful supply of the Demansyk pocket with 100,000+ German troops for several months, he actually made the correct decision. Though in a way I would put part of the blame back on him for not providing more resources that could have been made available to the front.
As for declaring war with the US, this had no meaningful influence whatsoever until 1943, by which time the Germans chances of success on the Eastern front were already gone. So whilst not smart, it only hastened the end of the war, which was always going to be decided by the results of the Eastern Front in 1941-42.
After the Germans unsuccessful attempt to rescue the Stalingrad pocket however, all hope of victory was lost, and no decision however crazy was going to stop the Russians.
I had previously thought that the best year to attack Russia would have been in 1942, though experts have since sighted that after the great Russian officer purges and their dismal performance of the Russians-Finnish war (1940), that their officers/doctrines and recruit training, was going through a complete overhaul, and would have been able to defend against the Germans in stages with much greater efficiency, had they had the time to carry it out. In addition the Russians would have finished relocating all of their factories into the Urals. Also by 1942, the Russians would have learned through their famous spy (Richard Sorge) that the Japanese did not plan to attack into Siberia, and hence the Russians could have moved most of their Siberian divisions into Eastern Europe to further bolster the defences.
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« on: January 07, 2010, 01:07:11 AM »
Hi guys if anyone knew for certain the answer to both of these questions, that’d be great
If I load up this mod, can I still join the vanilla games being hosted in the lobby of people who do not have the mod?
And if I have the mod and decide to host a vanilla game (with just PE/Wehr & US/Brits) can people without the mod, still join my game?
Thanks for any advice
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« on: January 05, 2010, 02:44:06 AM »
So has there been any official word on whether or not the devs will actually listen to any ideas/propositions, because if not I obviously wont bother spending hours thinking of and writing up ideas.
I asked burro and he said he would rather kill him self NO OTHER DEV EVEN ANSWERED so... take a guess
sorry mate, but I can be a little slow off the mark, do you mean they don’t want to read through all the ideas and have everyone bitch about why their ideas weren’t picked, or do you mean they don’t cherish the idea of having to come up with all the units, weapons, abilities, doctrine choices etc, when they can simply pick and choose from ideas already posted?
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« on: January 05, 2010, 02:36:55 AM »
I like your thinking though do believe they could use a little tweaking
The 25% fuel bonus is way too low, and if it only works on one sector your likely to get as little as 6-8 fuel points at a cost of 50 munitions. Would be best to either triple the fuel from one point or make it 25-50% of ALL fuel points. Even though it is only a transfer of equivalent munitions to fuel, and is really not that much of a bonus/reward to the Ostheer player when compared to all the first few Allied abilities.
I like the concept of a Tiger Ace, but the cost is way too high, I 'd be much better off building two panthers, and the whole point of these CP points are to reward the player. This however seems more like just an alternative unit. If it can only be called in once, how about reducing the price to 700-1000 manpower, if not then lets reward the player by letting it be recalled if destroyed
As for the elite troops, it sounds just like the blitz doctrine stormtroopers for a higher cost but without the cloak ability or Knights cross without the automatic Mp44 upgrade. So perhaps these ones could have something slightly different (especially for their higher cost), like being able to throw a munition free greanade once every minute, or being able to upgrade to a flamethrower, (making them good urban fighters etc)
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« on: January 05, 2010, 02:13:13 AM »
Sarin wasn't used by the Axis, they stockpiled it, but never used it. Tabun was made into Arty Shells and Ariel Bombs, but I can't find any info on how much was used. Mustard Gas was used in a few incidents against the Soviets and Poland too.
The only instances i have heard of poison gas being used was by the Germans at the seige of sevastopol, though this was from a single paragraph in one book that had no further details. Though is strange given that Hitler ordered under no circumstances was gas to be used. Towards the end of the war the Americans shipped in tonnes of gas in Italy and the ship carrying it was bombed whilst still docked in harbour (Bari I think). Needless to say the gas spread and killed hundreds, and the US in typical fashion denied all knowledge and said it was the Germans using gas, many decades later however the truth slipped out. Though because of the initial lies, many dont know any better and have read old books saying it was the Germans
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« on: January 04, 2010, 03:34:58 AM »
So has there been any official word on whether or not the devs will actually listen to any ideas/propositions, because if not I obviously wont bother spending hours thinking of and writing up ideas.
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