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Hey just a shot in the dark.... how about something based around the Korean war? it makes an ideal opportunity to bring in factions like China, US, UK etc etc. While still retaining the WW2 era feeling... It could also make for some interesting tactical changes, mainly because tanks were more heavily limited due to the terrain and the war encompassed both WW2 blitzkrieg but also WW1 static trench warfare in the later years of the conflict.

Just a thought.

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Ostheer Suggestions / Re: The Wehrmacht in the East (Ostheer)
« on: October 15, 2011, 12:42:26 PM »
Not at all, I just thought they deserved more of a role.. And I'm not saying their own faction.. And has no one thought they weren't actually Axis? They fought against both Axis and Allied they just wanted to defend their turf..

I guess your right.. But will the Finns speak Finnish? I dont think the game was released in Suomi..

I know you said you gave them a command tree, could you PM me describing it a little more please? I dont understand the short description of a couple of units in the OP..

I was merely thinking a few Finnish maps could be included - namely Rovaniemi based on the Winter War, and Lapland..

And perhaps a Finnish faction with Russian tanks? It was how it worked when they fought the Germans out, they had the help of Russia..

And Perhaps a role in the Russian campaign..

It seems like a whole load of effort to create the finns as a faction, then to just consider them a "Borderline" faction. It really doesn't make sense.

The winter war was before the second world war, the war itself is completely irrelevant to the eastern front.

I'm sorry but the facts and the logistics behind creating finland as a completely new faction that can be allied to either side seems slightly unbalanced and a bit washed out. Sure it is historically accurate, but clearly the developers are trying to cator for everything in a single faction. It doesn't really make any logical sense to have the finn's as a seperate faction.

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Eastern Front / Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« on: August 29, 2011, 04:08:29 PM »
Questions about tank traps:

-How is it the Czech hedgehogs are so effective against tanks? Considering the weight of a tank, why cant it ram into it and push past? Why must it go around?

-Also, how did one get rid of tanks traps besides using demolitions? Was it effective?

-Are they still used today?

For those of you that don't know what Czech hedgehogs are they are the things that American engineers build called tank traps. Particularly on bridges ^^

-the design of the hedgehog mean't that if a tank attempted to drive over it, the tank would either roll over or just get stuck. the hedgehog was also built to some tight specifications, one being that it had to survive a certain amount of force,  (600 kN i believe) the other being the design itself, with cross beams that counteract weight so that the hedgehog could survive 10 times it's weight, as well as being dug deep in the ground.

-i believe the allies would just dig them out or use bulldozers, the hedgehog was not mean't to be dug in very deeply, it was made of 3 L shaped brackets, the L basically anchored the trap into the ground. allowing them to be moved relatively easily but widthstand massive weights.

-Of course, it's cheap, and effective, obviously the design has been improved with stronger allows and made slightly bigger to counteract the size of tanks today, but neverthless they are a cheap and effective soloution to the tank problem other than anti tank mines.

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Eastern Front / Re: Favorite Battles...
« on: August 29, 2011, 01:09:49 AM »
- Battle of Gaugamela, if you have not heard, this was the biggest battle in which Alexander the Great fought against the Persians. Basically, with superior tactics and military genius, Alexander managed to overcome and rout the persians, who had 200,000 men, compared to Alexander who had ONLY 50,000. Astonishing.

- Not really a single battle, but Army Group North's contribution on the eastern front. the Army group was only Army Group that actually achieved any of it's objectives ruled out in the plan for Operation Barbarossa. and it continued to hold out in Courland throught the interity of the war. at the very end, the army was still able to hold and still had a considerable force.

There are more favorites, but it is getting late where i am, and i have work tomorow hahaha :)

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Eastern Front / Re: Operation Unthinkable...
« on: August 29, 2011, 12:38:26 AM »
I would have thought in this situation that IF there was some kind of attack by the allies upon the soviets, the USA would have built up a completely different land army in alaska as well, using the short distance to siberia as a way of getting into Russia with relative ease. thus also drawing Soviet soldiers into an ever-increasingly large front, considering also that the British were also going to attacking from the middle east, the Russians would have been massively stretched to cover all of their flanks. regarding diplomatic movements, i would have thought, like everybody else, that Korea and other Communist states would have immediately sided with the Soviets. But we must remember that in the pacific, the forces there were large and extremely well trained, IE: Marines. Also we have to consider at the time of the attack, airbourne units were being transferred to the pacific for the attack on the Japanese homeland.

It's a tough call, Either side could win. The Soviets have a massive ground presence and power, but we must look at the casulties suffered by the soviets already in the war. the soviets were not innumerable, they lost between 8 million and 10 million in Military deaths alone, and around 23 million including civillians and military altogether. It wouldnt surprise me if the Soviet people rose up against stalin in protest against another world war. The americans and british would most definitely have attacked supply lines and bombed Soviet russia mercilessly, as well as nuking japan and forcing them out of the war.

Myself, i would see it ending in a peace treaty, where neither side wins nor loses. 

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Eastern Front / Re: Strategy & Tactics
« on: August 29, 2011, 12:08:39 AM »
and when i ask everyone here to come up with plans for breaking a stalemate or crush enemy defences?

to start with something:
you have 10 divisions (7 infantry, 2 armoured and 1 elite armoured for a grand total of 180.000 men and 900 tanks, 350 of which are slightly aged)
facing you are 22 enemy divisions (a total of 350.000 men and 2000 tanks).

intelligence suggest they consist of 15 infantry, 5 armoured and 2 mechanized infantry divisions, of which 1 armoured and both mechanized infantry divisions are kept in reserve behind the lines.

lets say the front line is quite like a straight line, with one minor bulge (about 50 km deep), both under your control, on either end.

the enemy does not have superiority in the air, but has a powerfull AA defence readied and waiting.

you are given the command over a airfleet of 500 planes, of which 150 bombers, 300 fighters and 50 divebombers.



suprise me with some good tactics, guys, I'm wondering what you could make of this! :D

My military doctrine would generally call for a massive counter defence along the straight line, building miles and miles of bunkers, tank traps, and barbed wire, with complex trench systems and machine gun posts. i would also heavily fortify the bulges on either side, but have small openings in the line to allow vehicles to pass through, i would also construct it in a fashion that would ALLOW infantry to pass through freely, as a defender, but as an attacker it would seem like a maze of barbed wire and dragon's teeth. much like the siegfried line.

On the straight line defense, i would man it reasonably lightly with only 2 infantry divisions. the rest of the divisions will be stationed on the bulges, the Elite armoured division and 3 infantry divisions on the left. On the right will be 2 armoured divisions and 2 infantry divisions. the main attack would be on the right flank as a diversionary attack where it will draw some soldiers from enemies straight front line, weakening their lines further. after some time of fighting, the left hook will be unleashed and the 3 division's on the left wil drive through the enemies lines and go for their AA batteries, the 2 infantry divisions will spread to cover the holes left by the divisions. once the AA batteries have been weakened enough, the entire airfleet will engage the entire front of the enemy, forcing them into a tight and almost surrounded position. they will continually be ground into the dust and when they are about to break out, the two infantry divisions will emerge from their positions and attack them, putting even more pressure on the enemy, and finally grinding them into the dust.

Long yes, but it's a sure way of getting victory.

It's probably flawed yes, but it's what i could come up with in the short space of time.  :)

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