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Possible strat that would be hard to counter
« on: November 02, 2009, 06:39:31 AM »
Just throwing it out there.

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Just wondering as whermatch how you would counter this, I mean soviets would have a huge early advantage and your counter to ingeneries, pumas and flammenpanzer wagons would die to mines and PTRS squads.

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Re: Possible strat that would be hard to counter
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2009, 08:27:32 AM »
Your strat dies with the next update


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Re: Possible strat that would be hard to counter
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2009, 09:14:28 AM »
so does it work at the moment.

I like Russian tanks and small arms but German weapons will always be better.

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Re: Possible strat that would be hard to counter
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2009, 09:17:31 AM »
MG's, Panzerfausts and mortars. Or more flamethrowers.

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Re: Possible strat that would be hard to counter
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2009, 09:21:03 AM »
MG's, Panzerfausts and mortars. Or more flamethrowers.
If ur saying that these are counters I m wondering how mgs won't be flanked and how panzefaust well stop a tank with more armor and health than an M10.

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Re: Possible strat that would be hard to counter
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2009, 09:47:28 AM »
T2 PAK + Schreck
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Re: Possible strat that would be hard to counter
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2009, 11:31:01 AM »
T-34's have trouble aiming, due to their crap vision field and inexperienced crew. They can have trouble dealing with StuG's and Paks, and any Gren/Sturm squads with Shreck and occasional LMG42 upgrades on top of that would see the spam pretty much thwarted. HMG42's would be nice too to keep those Sturmovies pinned.

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Re: Possible strat that would be hard to counter
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2009, 10:10:40 PM »
Ingenery can easily killed my enemy Infanterie?
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Re: Possible strat that would be hard to counter
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2009, 09:47:10 AM »
Ingenery can easily killed my enemy Infanterie?
Body Amour effects only the Squads which are deployd to battlefield AFTER upgrade...



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Re: Possible strat that would be hard to counter
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2009, 02:28:25 PM »
Ingenery can easily killed my enemy Infanterie?
Body Amour effects only the Squads which are deployd to battlefield AFTER upgrade...



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4 years of this I think they would have thought of this stuff by now ;D

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Re: Possible strat that would be hard to counter
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2009, 05:57:42 AM »
T-34's have trouble aiming, due to their crap vision field and inexperienced crew. They can have trouble dealing with StuG's and Paks, and any Gren/Sturm squads with Shreck and occasional LMG42 upgrades on top of that would see the spam pretty much thwarted. HMG42's would be nice too to keep those Sturmovies pinned.
 : I have NO problem with that :) But I think most soviet
 tanks should have this malus/flaw as credit towards making
 them awesome in other ways? (Cheap! Solid!)
  : I hope T34/76 will keep it's historical HE superiority?
 (compared to Pz4/StuG4 long rifle 75)(A hint higher than
 Sherman75)
  : I TOTALLY like the idea of T34/76. But WHY would I
 make a tonload of them (historical) when I can't upgrade
 them :p I'd like if they could be upgraded at HQ at least
 Shermans can upgrade. (They ought to have made
 Sherman76 more awesome AT but weaker AInf so there
 is reason to have both. Oh well.

 What I am saying, essentially, is that the T34/76 won't be
 around for long. Get what I mean?
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Re: Possible strat that would be hard to counter
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2009, 04:06:23 PM »
But the T34/85 research isn't always a worthy investment. It is expensive enough on its own, and you might want to spend those resources on something more desirable for the present situation.

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Re: Possible strat that would be hard to counter
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2009, 12:25:45 AM »

 Hmmm... sigh.
 I'm just worried people might be tempted to go straight
 for the IS2 (No upgraded needed, and already good. While
 the T34/76 can become obsolete).

 Essentially saying everything should have a decent shelf
 life. Otherwise, a lot of material will simply end up unused
 deadweight, and that would truly be a shame.

 My ultimate would be that everything is yummy and
 worthy to be bought (depending on tactics/tactical
 situation, of course). Right now, I see no point in buying
 Pz4 when I have Panthers and StuGs :p
 
 My question is if this was the case, as well as offering
 suggestions to help make sure it would not happen?.

 If the IS2 is good, don't be afraid to make it crippingly
 expensive, for example (And the low firing rate, don'T
 forget that) :)

 The size of its gun continued to plague the IS-2, the two-piece ammunition was difficult to manhandle and very slow to reload (the rate of fire was only about two rounds per minute). Another limitation imposed by the size of its ammunition was the payload: a mere 28 rounds could to be carried inside the tank. [4]
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Re: Possible strat that would be hard to counter
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2009, 12:28:42 AM »
Yes, yes we know we know. Youve very clearly stated how the IS-2 will be the only worthwhile unit to make in the whole mod and how T-34's are useless. Why dont you wait until the mod comes out and see for your self?

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Re: Possible strat that would be hard to counter
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2009, 06:43:37 AM »

 Hmm, because I don't have demo/mod, and the
 proximity of release is driving me nuts :) That's why.
 So I'm blowing up in a fishbowl so to speak.
 - I love T34, I'm warning AGAINST that possibility.
 T34 was inhumanely populous. I'd like the game
 mechanics to encourage that?
 
 Hmm. T85 upgrade not being worth it depending?
 Expensive?
 Hmm, will it be more expensive than the Sher/76
 upgrade? (Which is an omni upgrade, all Sher get it)
 If this upgrade is only for new T34's, hmm...
 
 Make it cheaper than Sher/76 upgrade?
 Make it so it unlocks T85 production while still can
 make T76? (Yes, truncating for speed here, I am).

 Just grasping at straws and scratching my head, here.

 The IS2's stats are important, because they are part
 of the T34's shelflife. Which is my point. Take to
 example the Churchill/Cromwell dynamics. 14-16/8
 pop. Yet same gun. THEN it's not worth it to go pure
 Churchills. Only as a shield/Crusher. Get what I mean?
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