Mistake with light tanks T-70 and T-90

[BurroDiablo]

I've been saying the T-90 should be removed/turned into a reward unit since it was included, I even quickly re-made and re-skinned the T-90 into a T-60 to replace it.



It would be a good infantry shredder, similar to a 20mm Puma.

[CommissarGears]

Though if it was replaced by the 20mm HumanLiquifier in Diablos post, i wouldnt mind so much >.>

[508PIR]

Remove T-90? Are you nuts? Best Soviet unit, and I hope I don`t need to mention there were only 4 (four) Sherman Crocodile tanks build EVER, witch didn`t stop Relic "Mass Produce" it for US faction. T-70 could get some improvement, dough.

Relic uses the M4A3R3 as the "Crocodile", although the Crocodile was used on the Pacific theater, and the M4A3R3 on the European theater.  Obviously, this is due to naming conventions only.

There were more than 4 M4A3R3s produced.

[Shadowmetroid]

I've been saying the T-90 should be removed/turned into a reward unit since it was included, I even quickly re-made and re-skinned the T-90 into a T-60 to replace it.

It would be a good infantry shredder, similar to a 20mm Puma.

Don't remove T-90...If you are going to, make it a reward unit!

[Artillerist]

BurroDiablo - EXELLENT!!! Great !!!

Shadow - take it easy, T-60 is almost the same as T-90.

T-60 - 1x20mm and 1x7,62mm
T-90 - 2x12,7mm.

FAIR
http://www.booksgid.com/hardware/1210-kamufljazh-tankov-krasnojj-armii-1930.html

[Shadowmetroid]

It's not that it's the same, dude, it's just awesome

[UeArtemis]

Zenith tank Т-90 existed.
In WWII were created about 20 prototypes. They had an open turret. Why do we have it in the game and why it have a closed turret - I do not know.
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Relic uses the M4A3R3 as the "Crocodile", although the Crocodile was used on the Pacific theater, and the M4A3R3 on the European theater.  Obviously, this is due to naming conventions only.
There were more than 4 M4A3R3s produced.

This stereotype is misleading. Crocodiles were in Normandy.

Flame Shermans:

• M4A3R3 Zippo: Sherman tank used during Operation Overlord (1944) and in the Battle of Iwo Jima (1945)
• M4 Crocodile: four M4 tanks converted by British for US 2nd Armored Division in NW Europe with the same armored fuel trailer as used on Churchill but the fuel line went over the hull.
• Sherman Badger: Canada's replacement of its Ram Badger, the Sherman Badger was a turretless M4A2 HVSS Sherman with Wasp IIC flamethrower in place of hull machine gun, developed sometime from 1945 to 1949. The 150 gallons at 250 psi was effective to 125 yards, with elevation of +30 to -10 degrees and traverse of 30 degrees left and 23 degrees right. This inspired the US T68.

As you see: there were only 4 Crocodiles only in Europe, but Zippos existed and were in Europe and on Pacific.

But yes, in the game we have Zippos.

[BurroDiablo]

why it have a closed turret

Same reason most things have to be close turreted... getting an animated man to hide inside it and fire is just a time consuming job that we could do without. If a BA-64 was ever added, that would have to be closed turreted too, same with the SU-76 (which thankfully came with a closed turret version, albeit, less popular since a direct hit from a Panzerfaust could kill the crew more easily)

[UeArtemis]

And how about tents on turrets? This would solve the problem. Or can we copy animations from existing units?

[Artillerist]

Or can we copy animations from existing units?

Yep, it could be possibly taken from Marder.

[Capt. Malashenko]

Relic uses the M4A3R3 as the "Crocodile", although the Crocodile was used on the Pacific theater, and the M4A3R3 on the European theater.  Obviously, this is due to naming conventions only.
There were more than 4 M4A3R3s produced.

True, but as UeArtemis said..but non the less, even if we take Zippo varient, I don`t think there were more then a 100 produced, mostly for Pacific too, and T-90 might not be the most numerous Soviet AA/AI tank, but many people would hate to loose it (including me), as for the tent - it would be like copying SdKfz 222, really don`t see why so many hate towards this cute little unit with twin 12.7mm machine guns )))))

[Artillerist]

Man, almost nothing will change, T-60 is almost the same (but fromduced in several thousands) and have 20mm cannon (with 600 rpm fire rate) and 7,62 LMG... It will stay "little cute scout tank"

[Loupblanc]

 Replacing T90 (And making it a reward unit) with the
 T60 has definitively got my vote

 ... Not sure about 600 rpm 20mm gun though, lol

 Maybe more similar to PE's armored car?

[Artillerist]

... Not sure about 600 rpm 20mm gun though, lol

 Maybe more similar to PE's armored car?

Actually, T-60 is a "Soviet Pz.II". Both had aviation 20mm cannon with high fore rate, and LMG in turm.

[nbeerbower]

We should replace the T-70 and T-90 with the BA-64 and T-60!