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Soviet Sharpshooter has SVT-40 instead of Mosin-Nagant?
« on: February 03, 2010, 06:34:15 AM »
Just asking, but why does the sniper use an SVT-40 instead of a standard Mosin-Nagant 91/30? I've read that SVT-40s suffer from vertical shot depression, which was unacceptable for a sniper rifle.
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Re: Soviet Sharpshooter has SVT-40 instead of Mosin-Nagant?
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2010, 03:47:49 PM »
I read that this rifle (СВТ-40) was circulated only among the marines.
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Re: Soviet Sharpshooter has SVT-40 instead of Mosin-Nagant?
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2010, 05:18:28 PM »
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Total production of the SVT-38/40 was 5,772,085 rifles, of which 51,710 were the SVT-40 sniper variant.
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By the time the German invasion began in June 1941, the SVT-40 was already in widespread use by the Red Army. In a Soviet infantry division's table of organization and equipment, one-third of rifles were supposed to be SVTs

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Re: Soviet Sharpshooter has SVT-40 instead of Mosin-Nagant?
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2010, 09:59:59 AM »

 So the soviets were using SVTs while Germans were using
 K98's ;) Ge43 only came out in 1943... ;)
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Re: Soviet Sharpshooter has SVT-40 instead of Mosin-Nagant?
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2010, 11:55:04 PM »
Germans picked up SVT-40s (very prized weapon), and the G41(w) was issued in small numbers.

On topic: the SVT-40 has the same barrel-length as the Kar98k. This barrel length is shorter than the M91/30, but since the Kar98k uses different ammunition, I can't really say that the SVT-40 has the same accuracy -  but the accuracy of it should be considered pretty good.
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Re: Soviet Sharpshooter has SVT-40 instead of Mosin-Nagant?
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2010, 07:41:07 AM »
I do think that the sharpshooter is correct in having the svt-40, but the sniper ace should have the scoped mosin-nagant with camo cloth, this would make him more unique looking and i know snipers prefer bolt action in lower calibers as it is more accurate and stealthier. whispers "One shot one Ritterkreuz"  ;)


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Re: Soviet Sharpshooter has SVT-40 instead of Mosin-Nagant?
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2010, 03:38:31 PM »
Yes, I think the sniper ace looks just like a sharpshooter without the spotter. He should at least get a remodel in a later patch.

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Re: Soviet Sharpshooter has SVT-40 instead of Mosin-Nagant?
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2010, 04:17:18 PM »
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SVT-40 and Mosin Nagant are the same calibre. 7.62x54mm R.

Heavier ammunition flying at the same speed as lighter ammunition is actually MORE accurate, (although this is not calibre) because it takes more force from the wind to displace the bullet's path on the heavier round.

Anyhow. I don't see a new Mosin Nagant scoped as neceary, but it might be nice. Especially if it used a different sound, so that an Axis player could easily identify (by hearing) if their troops are being snipped by an Ace or Sharpshooter team.
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Re: Soviet Sharpshooter has SVT-40 instead of Mosin-Nagant?
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2010, 08:35:09 PM »
SVTs were very good guns but required alot more care and cleaning than a Mosin. In the hands of the average not particulary well trained soviet soldier and under those harsh conditions, it jammed/damaged very often which is why they kept the Mosin as the main production weapon...
Otherwise the whole soviet army could have been equipped just like the US were with the M1Garand
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Re: Soviet Sharpshooter has SVT-40 instead of Mosin-Nagant?
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2010, 08:30:32 PM »
SVT-40 and Mosin Nagant are the same calibre. 7.62x54mm R.

I know that they are the same calibre, i mean't that one is bolt action and the other is semi automatic, bolt action has the advantage for snipers due to the fact that when you fire there isn't the recoil of the bolt assembly moving back to chamber the next round and you can chamber the next round with a bolt action rifle at your own leisure, nice and slow as not to give away your position and also try and catch the empty case as its ejected, the svt-40 had the bonus of putting more rounds down at a better rate of fire its a pointless arguement really as both weapons were just as good as the other in different ways, i just feel that the sniper ace should have a scoped mosin-nagant just to make him look different plus a sniper ace should kill with one shot knowing he has to re cock the weapon for another attempt thus adding the pressure of doing it in one shot, i dunno just looking for that perfection as he is the "sniper ace"


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Re: Soviet Sharpshooter has SVT-40 instead of Mosin-Nagant?
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2010, 04:23:51 PM »
See thats the silly bit is Relic equipped the Wehr sniper with a scoped g43 yet they both have the silly tendency of taking like 6 seconds in between shots where you can easily fire and come back on target with a semi in about 3 seconds. Also the G43 was basically the SVT 40 with a different body, round, and a sprinkle of German refinment including the elimantation of the tilting bolt part of the action.

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Re: Soviet Sharpshooter has SVT-40 instead of Mosin-Nagant?
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2010, 07:43:38 PM »
But  won't a skilled sniper line his shots up before taking them? Instead of rushing a shot he waits for the perfect moment?

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Re: Soviet Sharpshooter has SVT-40 instead of Mosin-Nagant?
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2010, 08:27:01 PM »
If they're going for a guaranteed kill, they'll actually fire far slower than they do in-game.

However, in frenzied battle situations (rather than a stalk/ambush situation) they can fire quite a bit faster.  They're just less accurate and won't be aiming for the head.

COH times shots for balance, not realism.  Notice how slowly Garands fire.
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Re: Soviet Sharpshooter has SVT-40 instead of Mosin-Nagant?
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2010, 08:29:15 PM »
once again they aim :P

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Re: Soviet Sharpshooter has SVT-40 instead of Mosin-Nagant?
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2010, 08:33:59 PM »
Everyone aims, it's not a variable you have to consider.  The effective rate of fire from a Garand is greater than that a Kar or Enfield.

My point is that they keep them all firing at a similar speed because it keeps things balanced.
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