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Re: Useless school subjects.
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2012, 02:34:13 AM »
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And it stops human progress

i would disagree. i think that, for the most part, (excepting satanic worship and stuff) most religions try to move people tword morals and stuff. of course, when its misinturpeted is where wars like the crusades and stuff happen. even atheists should see that religoin has done more good than bad.

as the famous philosopher voltaire put it, If God didn't exist it would be necessary to invent him.
 


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Re: Useless school subjects.
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2012, 02:34:56 AM »
Religion isn't necesaairly bad (even though some ppl will argue it is used to shroud and decieve the poor and ignorant). Having a class on one peticular religion and going in depth may be a bit too much (IDK why all you guys seem to have this, I never took a religion class) but having a class that teaches about multiple religions can be of use. It can never hurt to broden you spectrums and learn about new things. For there are many bad assumptions about people due to their religion and its very detrimental to society.

School doesn't make english too interesting due to the regents. They need to prep and get students ready for this dumb test. Standardized test in general hurt schools b/c students and teachers must waste time trying to drone into children's head how to answer multiple choice questions or how to read through a passage fast and find mistakes. Instead this time could be used to explore novels, their meanings and purpose, and why their work was so notable. And classes could take time to decifer the book b/c every author writes the book for a reason, not jst to torment children ::)

BTW when I asked my teacher why do peple learn and study advanced math he replied "for the love and pursuit of arithmatics" :P. Another teacher replied "The only thng you can do with math is teach math" XD

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Re: Useless school subjects.
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2012, 03:05:54 AM »

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(By the way, I was raised Roman Catholic. Catholic school all that. Church 3 times a week. Ugh.)
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Re: Useless school subjects.
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2012, 04:49:17 AM »
Religion is fundamentally flawed in that it requires complete faith and devotion to something not proven (or with any real evidence) to exist. Whole groups of people are manipulated into thinking or acting a certain way by certain individuals who know "God's will". Much of religion can be interpreted in certain ways by individuals, who use it to commit acts of evil - 9/11 etc. Throughout history, religion has been used to suppress science, free thought and democracy.

It teaches nothing about morals. Is it moral to disallow abortions and birth control for individuals or countries that CANNOT support their children and they will suffer through the rest of their lives? Is it moral to call love between 2 men or women a sin and abomination? Is it moral for men to be killed for shaving their beard? (It's in there! :P)

Most people I know are atheist and know right from wrong. Religion teaching morals is not true at all. Religion is usually used as justification for extremely immoral acts.

Mattdamon and I are from Australia, where religion is a compulsory subject in primary schools and private schools, if anyone's wondering.
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Re: Useless school subjects.
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2012, 05:13:15 AM »
Well religion used to be a guidelines on how to live and conduct ones self (ten commandments for example). It when people start to develop ulterior motives and begin to abuse people's willingness to believe does evil occur and suddenly, one persons actions cause a ideology to become tarnished. Individual acts like 9/111 (although no that individual as I make it seem) has suddenly turned the US against the Islamic faith (if you ever listen to any person talk about Muslims here, its all uninformed hate and disdain ::)). We must realize that these single people are the ones using religion for their own purposes and must see past them if we want peace (or more peace than currently)

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« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2012, 05:21:31 AM »
Mattdamon and I are from Australia, where religion is a compulsory subject in primary schools and private schools, if anyone's wondering.
What do you learn in that subject? I'm curious ;D
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« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2012, 05:22:56 AM »
It is the religious "justification" that these people have that allows them to attract followers and perform these acts though. Religion is an enabler for these people to believe what they do is right. The morals argument doesn't stand up at all. Both the Quoran and Bible are angry books and it's certainly not limited to these two. Just the other day there was a human sacrifice in India to pray for a fertile year or something.

Most people act moral just because that's how they are. Religion didn't grant them that. If everyone were to stop indoctrinating their kids with religion and just taught ethics and morals anyway, their generation would be just as, if not more, moral than previous ones.

Religion is oftentimes used as an excuse to knowingly do something bad because "Jesus forgives". Committing adultery and then confessing doesn't make it any less wrong.

Dann88: I imagine it's pretty much like a Sunday school thing in other countries, where you just read Bible passages and talk about how Jesus died so people can sin without an apocalypse. I remember using the class just to practice drawing.
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« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2012, 05:32:34 AM »
Sucks for you Aussies. In America its never a compulsory subject unless you go to a religious private school (a Yeshiva or a Catholic school). Even then many people don't really believe in it.

I, myself a Jew find it extremely hard to believe in a Gods existence after what he has done to my people, if he had ever existed.  We weren't the chosen race as in we were a greater group of people with superior morals, IMO we were chosen as the Roaches of the Earth, forced to scurry from one hell to another with only small lulls to break the maddening tones of death. Whenever I ask a religious Christian or Muslim why it happened, they say its because God has forsaken us. If so then why the hell are they so damn special. I would much rather be a Pagan (whom I find quite fascinating) than be a member of any Abrahamic religion. Better a man who stays to his beliefs and morals than be a hypocritical pig so seeks to break the rules he set out for himself (though shalt not sleep with thine neighbors wife, thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not blah blah blah) its all trash. We all do it in some form or another.

Wow, super rant there XD. BTW I'm still a proud Jew, but to me its more of a race than a religion.

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Re: Useless school subjects.
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2012, 05:39:04 AM »
I abhor poetry  >:(

And I think some people join religion for the wrong reasons.But people also join religion b/c they have no where else to turn, no greater calling or greater oppurtunity. It at least gives people a beacon of hope. Without this light the masses would be stuck in darkness. I personally dont agree with some religious practices or beliefs but for some it teaches disiplne and good behavior and for others its and emotionally and spritual outlet that guides them

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« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2012, 05:45:47 AM »
i very much hate when i say that christianity is utterly useless, and then someone says, but they made christian virtues such as the shall not kill. CHRISTIANS DIDNT FUCKEN INVENT THOSE LAWS.ITS NOT CHRISTIAN VIRTUES ITS HUMAN VIRTUES!!!!@@@
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« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2012, 05:46:49 AM »
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« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2012, 05:47:31 AM »
yep good idea
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« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2012, 05:52:47 AM »
This thread's gonna get locked...

Well as long as we stay appropriate it shouldn't have to get locked :P

Which means no hating on any one religion. And if you must say something about it, present it as constructive critisism.

But back on topic my school made me learn 3 subjects: Art, Health, and Music. All of which were a complete waste of time. The ciriculum that that these teachers must ahere to is absolutely boring and is presented in a way that is very uninformative. They taught me nothing new and quite frankly I could have devoted my time to better things :P

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« Reply #28 on: January 10, 2012, 06:07:47 AM »
Change it's to useful subjects then :P When I was in highschool, me and most the guys in my class played Counter Strike together in computer class, funny like hell ;D. Things don't change much when I'm in college but less fun because we play Dota then, which only support 10 players :P
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« Reply #29 on: January 10, 2012, 06:52:06 AM »
hahahaha and i got 30% in my religion exam :D. anyway, wouldnt computer class be media?
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