Partisans

[Michael Wittman]

Stormtroopers are called Of map, not infiltration, They can move while camouflaged

Fallschirmjaeger can be called off map or Infiltration, they can hide when are Still and in cover.

Partisans enter the map via infiltration (I imagine off map too). They can move while camouflaged...

That's a bit Unfair, imagine your team is Allied Infantry or worse, British Royal Artillery... Infiltrate a squad near enemy base and hide, use camouflaged and go to enemy base, and the Artillery Rape Will Talk for his own, Imagine Overwatch artillery Blasting Axis Infantry... and Base...

[Voop_Bakon]

I dont see this as a problem, since Americans have snipers that can move while camouflaged and we don't have this problem. 

[Michael Wittman]

Snipers can get enemy base too, but they have to walk the entire map, and that will take some time (creation,walking, avoiding enemy, etc).

But if Partisan infiltrates in a Near House to enemy base, can do it easily and faster in no time.

[Voop_Bakon]

True, but im pretty sure the Overwatch has a range, and you should be fine on 2v2 or bigger, especially with how big the maps in this mod are seeming to be

[Loupblanc]

  Stormtruppen : Made to fight, not sabotage. Cost 8!!!! Pop. It's a stalemate breaker.

 Fallsschirmjaeger : Made for deep  penetration and getting
rid of pesky arty/mortar, Eating wrong  Strategic point, etc.
Their stealth sucks balls, though. (doesn't work  right for me)
 
Partisans : ... Are behind the front line civilians/bandits with
a bone to chew. Their malus is that they suck in combat. (For every plus, there must be a minus).

 - Overwatch/Partisans unfair?
 - What's difference with? Fallshirmjaeger/PE AT Plane strike
 or Sniper/Scout stealth PE Bike?
 
 But, yea, interactions are dangerous. I recall how they really nerfed the British uber OP trucks (enhanced) From 3 to 1. (And don't think it shared with allies).

 Voop_Bakon : My point exactly, with snipers.
 
 Michael : True, partisans can recon the sensitive spots a lot
 faster than other similar units (xcept Fallsj) but where the
 sniper kicks ass, the partisans are somewhat helpless/close range.

 - Perhaps give them reduced sight? Depends if they're given binoculars or not

 Voop Bakon : Big maps? I like that. In-taste with soviet, EF. But that is not what I heard, though. Can someone confirm that EF maps will be somewhat oversized? (Big sectors, fewer flags) 3x3 being made to 2x2, etc, like.


 Details, please?

 I think they're great, beautiful, but not so different in
 concept with what we've seen up to now from COH?

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[Loupblanc]

 Grr. I have editor issues. So I've taken to write posts
 in Notepad, with big font. End result, well, are 'columns'.
 I did not know what you people were talking about earlier
 about that. So sorry, will be on the lookout for it now.

 I've tried to fix my most recent posts.

[ford_prefect]

 Grr. I have editor issues. So I've taken to write posts
 in Notepad, with big font. End result, well, are 'columns'.
 I did not know what you people were talking about earlier
 about that. So sorry, will be on the lookout for it now.

 I've tried to fix my most recent posts.

thanks!

[Michael Wittman]

Partisan or not...

Sniper Ace Will do his job... he is called by Infiltration too, move while camouflage and i think he move fast, plus he has a bigger line of Sight... so...

God of War Artillery + Howitzer shot/Air Bomber will be Fun.

Not for Axis Army i think..

God of War

All available artillery pieces are now redirected to your sector. This will allow you unleash hell upon a large area of the map.

Partisans

You can now infiltrate a squad of local Freedom Fighters.

Sniper Ace

You can now infiltrate a Hero of the Soviet Union.

[Voop_Bakon]

K, with god of war, I kind of see your point. Devs, any insight?

[Michael Wittman]

Have to keep in mind this, you need 2 Russian for a nice Combo.

Propaganda Strategy -> Artillery Warfare ; Trench Systems ; Stalin Organ ; God of War

Urban Combat Strategy  -> Guerrilla Warfare ; Partisans; Sabotage ; Sniper Ace

GoW + Good Spotter (Partisan, Sniper Ace) = Blast Enemy Base

in 2v2, that would be a nice couple.

or maybe I'm just Overreacting...

[Loupblanc]

 Well current wehr/PE luft already do a nice job with V1/280mm
 Arty strike, etc. The goal of the last talents is to be slightly
 game breaking, so as to force a break to any stalemates,
 kinda.

 As soon as I saw Gods of War, I thought ... uhhhh...
 But, eh. We'll just have to see what happens
 
 Thanks for the headsup, I didn't know the Sniper Ace
 was ALSO an infiltration unit. Ouch, this is going to be
 so evil

[ford_prefect]

Have to keep in mind this, you need 2 Russian for a nice Combo.

Propaganda Strategy -> Artillery Warfare ; Trench Systems ; Stalin Organ ; God of War

Urban Combat Strategy  -> Guerrilla Warfare ; Partisans; Sabotage ; Sniper Ace

GoW + Good Spotter (Partisan, Sniper Ace) = Blast Enemy Base

in 2v2, that would be a nice couple.

or maybe I'm just Overreacting...

thats called (opp) thats why they are not together 

[SavageWorld]

It looks like the Partisans will be a well designt unit. They can not kill tanks like the Stormtroopers and they don't have super Anti-infantry guns like the Fallschirmjager. What they are is an infiltrate unit that can lay traps for the enemy. Cool. 

And year you could combine them with God of War in 2 vs 2, but in 2 vs 2 their already is a ridiculously numbers of weird strats. I once sneacked a sniper in to my opponets base and we hit him with 2 V1 missiles. Just to show that this strat is not uncommen nor realy OP because it is only possible in a very campy game.

[WartyX]

Surely, mixing overpowered abilities is the whole fun of team games?