Ostheer Air superiority = Stronger Luftwaffe presence

[Ghost]

the blitzkrieg meant ju-87 + panzer ...

that's the way the blitzkrieg doctrine should be.
my idea about the stuka:
multiple planes (like il-2/henschel), with high supression (and nice sound  )
weapons: mg and a single bomb

[Gerrit 'Lord Rommel' G.]

Well...Blitzkrieg is a bit more then just "Ju 87" and Panzers
The structure of german Panzerdivisionen, the technical equipment of planes, tanks and command posts, the training of the officers and the soldiers...
So when u use the term Blitzkrieg dont just think about "Ju 87" and Panzers ( small advice: e.g. the Ju 88 was a "Sturzkampfflugzeug" ( point attack plane ) too ).

[Paciat]

Bringing german fighter-bombers into COH would be wierd. US and UK are known for using (spamming) them, germans lost the fight for air superiority before fighter-bombers became an efective weapon (ASM). Thats why Me-109 and FW-190 are a bad idea.

I would like too see and hear a Ju-87 not only becouse it was efective but also becouse it was a propaganda weapon.

But a recon plane for Ostheer too in an arti/siege doctrine would be nice too.

[stryker]

What if Ostheer Luftwaffe doctrine had a plain  Bombing run, not the run like the US , but a "Carpet" bombing of a large area, you may say OP but if you consider the cost, and the FF posibilities, it may work.

Over a large area, do you mean much like Gods of War in the Russian propaganda doctrine?

[neosdark]

No my friend a carpet bombing run is when you bomb the Entire Length of what you are flying over. Bassiclly the moment the plane enters the field it drops bombs until it has left it.

[Akalonor]

you could make it expensive and have a warning timer .

[Saavedra]

That´s a horrible idea. Horrible, horrible idea. The last thing CoH needs is a doomsday weapon like that (then again, we do have the V1...).

[Sovereign]

Why are you talking about 1941-1942?
Not all russian pilotes died in 1941!
There where some (a lot) veterans of the spanish civil war and Finnish winter war. (it was a winter so the airforce performence was poor but many pilotes gained experience there) Even few (12) french pilotes were fighting using Soviet planes.

The Kursk battle (1943) is where the soviets started to gain real air superiority (but they were shooting down german many transport planes in the late stages of Stalingrad battle too) so in 1944 all eastern skies were Soviet.

Where did I ever say that all pilots died in 1941? 

Also, its just a fact that Ostheer did have air superiority for over half of the time on the eastern front and it was only after the turning of the tide aka Stalingrad that the Russians would gain the momentum.

That´s a horrible idea. Horrible, horrible idea. The last thing CoH needs is a doomsday weapon like that (then again, we do have the V1...).

Having some strong air elements into the Ostheer will not be a "doomsday weapon" far from it when properly done.

[Versedhorison]

If this means ME262's then I'm onboard.

[Ghost]

If this means ME262's then I'm onboard.

what would the role of  the me 262 be?

[Akalonor]

The entire point of having a Bombing run  is that it IS a doomsday weapon, limited use(Maybe 1 time every 30 mins) FF increased damage? better now hahWe see NO bombing runs in this game, yet WWII waswell known for bombing runs, entire cities were plowed, yet there is NO representation of this.

[Versedhorison]

If this means ME262's then I'm onboard.

what would the role of  the me 262 be?

I had explained it in a couple of thread though basically I see it has activating for a 30 or 60 second time and shoots down any enemy aircraft that are called in. Although it would have a long cool down to represent the wanning luftwaffe air superiority late in the war and the rarity of this jet.

So tl;dr its a counter against airborne and commando doctrine and the soviet air strike ability.

[Ghost]

I had explained it in a couple of thread though basically I see it has activating for a 30 or 60 second time and shoots down any enemy aircraft that are called in. Although it would have a long cool down to represent the wanning luftwaffe air superiority late in the war and the rarity of this jet.

So tl;dr its a counter against airborne and commando doctrine and the soviet air strike ability.

we have discussed that before. there is no sense in creating an ability that can only be used vs. 3 of 9 allied doctrines (commando, airborne, russian il-2). if your opponent chooses any other doctrine the me262 ability would be completely useless.

[Versedhorison]

perhaps but maybe that kind of ability would be something like 2CP or something.

[Gerrit 'Lord Rommel' G.]

Any doctrine had an ability which can just be used against one other doctrine and we dont need to discuss this again.
When Ostheer get Luftwaffen-support then this abilities will be useful all the time and not just against 3 of 9 enemys doctrines.