The Wehrmacht in the East (Light concept)

[Werwolf]

Field-modded Turán I/IIs, PzKpfw. IIIs and Pz. 38(t)s.....now THAT'S Ostheer in a nutshell...a hodgepodge of patched-up units

[TheReaper]

Hungarian tanks are good idea, a bit historically uncorrect, but it's similar desing to the Pz 38 t. The Marder 3 chassis could be use to create the hungarian models. The Toldi Light tanks were rare in the begining of the invasion of the SU, and the Turan was effective until the T34 appeared in the field.

Here some Pz38t variants:

38t with Panzer turret:

A képet a Képfeltöltés.hu tárolja. http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu

The TUran tank:

A képet a Képfeltöltés.hu tárolja.

38t tank:
http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu

A képet a Képfeltöltés.hu tárolja. http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu

Mobile gun:

A képet a Képfeltöltés.hu tárolja. http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu

Command vehicle:

A képet a Képfeltöltés.hu tárolja. http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu

But my oppinion is here:
http://myconcept.5mp.eu/web.php?a=myconcept&o=GGVaIjzzkO

[Werwolf]

But my oppinion is here:
http://myconcept.5mp.eu/web.php?a=myconcept&o=GGVaIjzzkO

The "Zimmerit" upgrade seems like a good idea...I hate those damn stickies. 

[TheReaper]

The "Zimmerit" upgrade seems like a good idea...I hate those damn stickies. 

Yes, that is developed for. Allies couldn't attach magnetic mines to the tanks. Makes sense to put in the game.

[Blackbishop]

As far as i remember, no one uses magnetic mines on CoH.

[TheReaper]

As far as i remember, no one uses magnetic mines on CoH.

The russians used that, it's in the mod too, I think.

[Aouch]

Zemmerit would only be effictive against stickies from US Riflesquad. The AT-nades soviet tank-hunters use explode instantly and have to timer, at least in the game. 

Thus a Zemmerit-upgrade wouldn't be really usefull, except turning the only early and usefull tank-counter from the US into useless crap.

[Werwolf]

Thus a Zemmerit-upgrade wouldn't be really usefull, except turning the only early and usefull tank-counter from the US into useless crap.

lol... good news for Axis players, bad news for US ones

[TheReaper]

Thus a Zemmerit-upgrade wouldn't be really usefull, except turning the only early and usefull tank-counter from the US into useless crap.

lol... good news for Axis players, bad news for US ones

The upgrade wuold be useful to not harm the tank's engine. The blast power would be same.

[Blackbishop]

The russians used that, it's in the mod too, I think.

Yeah, i forgot those...

Zemmerit would only be effictive against stickies from US Riflesquad. The AT-nades soviet tank-hunters use explode instantly and have to timer, at least in the game. 

Thus a Zemmerit-upgrade wouldn't be really usefull, except turning the only early and usefull tank-counter from the US into useless crap.

US Stickies aren't magnetic, so it would be useless.

[TheReaper]

I'm thinking in gameplay mechanism. Use you're imagination...  The sticky and the magnetic mine has similar use and effect.

[Werwolf]

The russians used that, it's in the mod too, I think.

Yeah, i forgot those...

Zemmerit would only be effictive against stickies from US Riflesquad. The AT-nades soviet tank-hunters use explode instantly and have to timer, at least in the game. 

Thus a Zemmerit-upgrade wouldn't be really usefull, except turning the only early and usefull tank-counter from the US into useless crap.

US Stickies aren't magnetic, so it would be useless.

Hmm. Perhaps the main argument here is that the Zimmerit paste itself does not have any significant anti-magnetic properties at all, just that the ridge-patterns (or waffle-patterns, as used on StuG. IVs) coupled with the vibrations/movement of the vehicle itself made it difficult for the offending device to stay in place. Thus, the only surefire way to disable (not destroy!) a Zimmerit-coated Tiger using stickies would be to crawl over and attach it to the treads/rollers---which would of course be suicidal and moronic (even the clichéd and wholly fictional film "Saving Private Ryan" featured this in one of its scenes).   

[Blackbishop]

Hmm. Perhaps the main argument here is that the Zimmerit paste itself does not have any significant anti-magnetic properties at all, just that the ridge-patterns (or waffle-patterns, as used on StuG. IVs) coupled with the vibrations/movement of the vehicle itself made it difficult for the offending device to stay in place. Thus, the only surefire way to disable (not destroy!) a Zimmerit-coated Tiger using stickies would be to crawl over and attach it to the treads/rollers---which would of course be suicidal and moronic (even the clichéd and wholly fictional film "Saving Private Ryan" featured this in one of its scenes).   

ok i didn't think about that ... i was just thinking about the anti-magnetic properties. Thanks Werwolf and TheReaper about that .

[Aouch]

However, I still don't think a Zemmerit-upgrade is needed. It could be only effectice against 2 out of 3 factions and 2 out of countless abilities. Therefore I think it's not worth the work. 

I've updated my concept a bit, now it's even more focused on a strong early-game and encourages the interaction of different units in late-game to be effective.
(For example the "disable-tank-with-Geballte Ladung-and-then-blow-it-up!"-tactic)

[ThGermanElite]

Its a good concept, you put alot of thoguht into it, however alot of the prices made my mouth drop...theres alot of really expensive stuff in there (Research for the LeF costs 700 MP?!?!  Just for your troops to move in territory quickly costs 150 munis... its an early ability, and its  limited?!?! Whos going to have 150 munis that early in the game and use that much just to move quickly?? Commander in a Kubel costs 100 munis? 0.o)  Anyway, you know what Im getting to, but its a great idea, just lower the prices