Best Tank Destroyer

[AbhMkh]

With the introduction of the Russian faction i was wondering which faction has the best tank destroyer!!!!!

Here are the evaluation parameters..

1. Cost
2.Armor
3.Damage
4.Range
5.Speed
6.Line Of Sight
7.Rate of firing
8.Damage vs infantry

Here are the potential canidates(ill start with the americans and end with PE)

Allied
1. m10
2. m18
3  m26
4 . Sherman Firefly
5 su85
6 su 100
7 is 2
8. isu-152
9. t-34/85

Axis

1.Panther
2.Tiger
3. Tiger-2 or KT
4. geshutchwagon
5 marder-3
6 hetzer
7 jagdpanther

(The Germans had a few more like the nashorn and the elefant tank,since they are not in the game im not considering them)


My vote goes to the "Sherman Firefly"

Whts your pick?

[Red_Stinger]

I would vote for the SU-100, with its 100mm guns 

But why did you put T-34/85, IS-2 and M26 pershing? These are battle-tanks, not tank destroyer 

[cephalos]

storm squad with double shrecks 
And Jagdpanther, of course - veted 3x deffensive

[GodlikeDennis]

Several of those aren't strictly tank destroyers, the Stug assault gun belongs on the list more than a tiger for instance.

My vote goes for the SU-100. Cheap, low teching cost, extremely damaging, fast and looks cool. If we aren't sticking purely to tank destroyers but expanding to AT tanks as well, I would say the panther. Excellent damage and accuracy, front armour, fast speed and acceleration and ~60% chance to hit infantry (much better than most other AT weapons).

You should've made an actual poll so we can see the results easier.

[AbhMkh]

When i say the best tank destroyer it has to economical as well

su-100 is a damn god tank destroyer but it cant be produced in large nos as its very expensive  & i put m26 and t34/85 cuz these are excel at all roles

as to the jagdpanther i wouldnt vote for it at all its too damn expensive!!!!!!!!!!!

we are talkin about vehicles only


I choose Sherman Firefly because its the only tank besides the marder tht can fire without being fired upon(its powerful 17 pounder is the bane of tanks)!!! and its economical as well
u can produce considerable no of fireflies


by the best i mean excelling on all the parameters ive mentioned!!!
Post Merge: July 02, 2010, 11:19:59 AM

"You should've made an actual poll so we can see the results easier."



Then perhaps you could make a poll???
Post Merge: July 02, 2010, 11:22:51 AMpanther doesnt have the range and is too expensive
Post Merge: July 02, 2010, 11:25:49 AM By tank destroyers i mean the tanks strictly meant for anti tank role(multipurpose tanks can be included only if they have the required guns like t34/85-85mm gun, persinh-90 mm gun etc)

Stug is not a tank destroyer its 75 mm gun is too weak

[GodlikeDennis]

SU-100 is cheaper than a firefly.

Panther may be expensive but does have good range.

Firefly is complete rubbish against infantry and gets destroyed very quickly by infanty AT or AT guns. Jadgpanther would be the best tank destroyer without a doubt if we were talking real life. The limit of 1 puts it out of this contest though.

[Sonders]

SU-100 is cheaper than a firefly.

Panther may be expensive but does have good range.

Firefly is complete rubbish against infantry and gets destroyed very quickly by infanty AT or AT guns. Jadgpanther would be the best tank destroyer without a doubt if we were talking real life. The limit of 1 puts it out of this contest though.

Firefly is almost useless without the command tank. It fires every 10 seconds without the command tank and every 6 seconds with command tank. That's a huge difference. Fire rate increases as command tank gets vet, also range I think.

[TacticalNuke]

Yay! It goes from a terrible tank to a bad tank!

[Zerstörer]

Jagdpanther is by far the best AT unit and will remain that way.
Panther/Firefly/IS2/SU100 are the runner ups all being very close overall...Geschutz is OP atm...but is gonna get a nice balance change  soon

[Paciat]

M-10.
It can circlestrafe any tank, squish any infantry, is faster and has twice as more armor penetration and twice as more accuracy vs infantry than Hellcat.

Firefly is my second best.
It will destroy anything lesser than a Panther and its high fuel cost isnt that important when you have a truck on a Fuel point. Upgraded engineer trucks (doctrinal) make even more Fuel so for every Tiger called in UK can have 2 Fireflies with over repair and hull down.
Marders and Gwagons have better gun range but lower spotting range so its the Firefly who usually fires first. Also Firefly has a turret so its easy to fire on the move. Marders and Gwagons are easy prey to light tanks.
Only APCR Jagdpanther has better armor penetration than 17lbs (both 17lbs emplacement and Firefly have the same gun penetration stats vs tanks).
Post Merge: [time]pią 02 lip 2010 13:14:00 GMT+8[/time]

Stug is not a tank destroyer its 75 mm gun is too weak

Its gun vs tanks and frontal armor is better than PzIV.
It has 1.25dmg modifier vs M-10 and 1.5 vs a Sherman. Vet 1 Stug is equal to a Churchill.
If Hetzer can be called a tank destroyer so can be Stug.

[Seeme]

Its so funny how paciat is sooooo bias with the Brits

[TacticalNuke]

Oh, and you're definatly not biased in anything

[GodlikeDennis]

Wow nuke, not too tolerant of Seeme today are we? I agree the firefly is a strong contender but in my opinion the hp/armour lets it down. Panther is more expensive but also much better. The firefly is actually kinda slow too, just has really good acceleration which makes it easy to kite with. M10 is way out of this in my opinion, far too fragile. It may be fast and cheap but a good player will never let you circlestrafe and you will smash him in a slugfest with almost any tank.

[AbhMkh]

Dude u ant use any of the allied tank destroyers against a blob of those annoying stugs except the Sherman firefly

M10 and M18 are very fragile they don't stand a chance against anything heavier than a stug


As to to firing rate all of you must be knowing that firefly gets a reloading bonus at range(its firing speed is to poor at close ranges,even with command tank)

firefly can fire at ranges which only the marder and AT guns
 can fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I Agree they are expensive but I WAS HOPING THT COH DEVELOPERS IN TOV WOULD REPLACE IT WITH AN M10 ACHILLES SP WITH A COST OF AROUND 320 MP AND 60 FUEL

BUT THEY DIDNT , IT WOULD DISTURB THE BALANCE, INFACT A 17 POUNDER IS SO DEADLY THT A MOBILE ONE WOULD KNOCK OUT GERMAN ARMOR LIKE DUCKS I REALLY WOULD LIKE THE ACHILLES IN THE GAME


AND PACIAT STUG IS NOT A TANK DESTROYER AT ALL(IF ONE DOESNT SEE HISTORICALLY) ITS RELOADING TIME IS 7 SEC

AND FRONTAL ARMOR PENETRATION IS SHIT!!!


WHOEVER SAYS THT HETZER ISNT A TANK DESTROYER IS REALLY ****** OR THE PERSON HASNT PLAYED WITH PANZER ELITE

JAGDPANTHER IS A GOOD ONE BUT IT IS OUT OF OF THE CONTEST DUE TO THE HARD CAP AND THE PRICE!!!!

[GodlikeDennis]

Your caps lock is broken.

Jadgs are well worth their cost. Though you're right that the hardcap puts them out. Stug IS a tank destroyer. It beats shermans 1v1 and is much MUCH cheaper. Don't be hatin' on Paciat. He may be incredibly Brit biased but he's a smart knowledgable guy.