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Re: Best Tank Destroyer
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2010, 03:32:49 PM »
Stug is only really good vs 'sherman armour' because it gets 1.5 damage modifier against it + good penetration making it almost as damaging as a panther gun 131.25 vs 137.5 (same reload 7 btw!)
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Re: Best Tank Destroyer
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2010, 05:01:01 PM »
M10 and M18 are very fragile they don't stand a chance against anything heavier than a stug
M-18s are sh** after they decloack. M-10s on the other hand are faster have more armor penetration and have better vet bonuses.
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AND PACIAT STUG IS NOT A TANK DESTROYER AT ALL(IF ONE DOESNT SEE HISTORICALLY) ITS RELOADING TIME IS 7 SEC

AND FRONTAL ARMOR PENETRATION IS SHIT!!!
Its the same as Marders without lockdown and Gwagons.  :P
Also historically a random stug on the eastern front usually destroyed 3 tanks before it was lost.
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Re: Best Tank Destroyer
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2010, 06:27:54 PM »
Do You mean "Best tank buster of GAME" or in Real?

70% of all destroyed German tanks on Eastern Front were destroyed by ARTILLERY. 53-K (and later M-42), F-22, ZiS-2, ZiS-3... Only 15% goes to tsoviet tank crews, 5% were victims of aviation, and 10 % fell on MINES.
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Re: Best Tank Destroyer
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2010, 02:48:43 AM »
Were you guessing? Its very wrong, but a good guess.
The Russians think there sooo tough, wait till the Ostheer comes...

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Re: Best Tank Destroyer
« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2010, 04:26:24 AM »
If one considers history then the stug assault gun series destroyed more tanks then rest of the German armor , however

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And guys i have made a poll regarding tank destroyers,do vote in it!!!
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Re: Best Tank Destroyer
« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2010, 04:36:01 AM »
Wow nuke, not too tolerant of Seeme today are we?

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Re: Best Tank Destroyer
« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2010, 04:37:55 AM »
And Paciat the archer was built on a valentine tank chassis which was obsolete and very weak!!!
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Re: Best Tank Destroyer
« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2010, 04:36:32 AM »
Why isnt the JagdPanther in there?? D:

But my vote would definitely go -hands down- to the GeschutzWagon

-Supression ability with MG (When purchased)
-Kills Shermans in 2-3 hits
-Decent armor & fantastic damage
-Moderately fast
-Ability to fire extremely fast
-Great distance
-Almost 100% penetration chance
-Cost effective.....definitely worth the money
-Once you get 2-3 of them, and support them, its very hard for the Allies to accomplish ANYTHING with Armor.


 
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Re: Best Tank Destroyer
« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2010, 06:05:32 AM »
Mon Ami gwagons have avery poor los fireflies can own any of the german armor if given anti infantary support , gwagon cannot match the range and penetration of the 17 pounder on the firefly!!!!!!
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Re: Best Tank Destroyer
« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2010, 06:10:18 AM »
You have valuable points, BUT the Firefly costs 50 more fuel than the GWagon, and the fire rate doesnt match the GWagon's....especially when the GWagon has the FireRate ability. The Firefly would still die in 2-3 hits from a Gwagon too.
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Re: Best Tank Destroyer
« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2010, 03:32:43 PM »
I would say the gwagon is out of the running because it is currently an imbalanced unit and in many's opinions' needs immediate nerfing. I believe this will probably be addressed in the next EF patch. I do agree that it is an excellent AT unit though, LoS doesn't matter if they're supported (ie. used properly). Their vet 3 bonus is monstrous, they do disgusting damage (with massive range), are cheaper than the stug they replace and are decent against infantry as well. Weakness would be the low health/marder armour and no turret.
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Re: Best Tank Destroyer
« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2010, 07:36:24 PM »
Gwagon is basically made on the hotchkiss chassis(the most useless tank of the game),& its knocked out pretty fast from AT guns and it takes a loooooooooooong time to build...... , however to the firefly vs the gwagon the firefly will win comfortably due its looooooooong range(we should actually try it out in the simulator)....
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Re: Best Tank Destroyer
« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2010, 08:18:00 PM »
And Paciat I wasn't trying to offend you in anyway ;)
The Russians think there sooo tough, wait till the Ostheer comes...

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Re: Best Tank Destroyer
« Reply #28 on: July 05, 2010, 09:16:27 PM »
And Paciat the archer was built on a valentine tank chassis which was obsolete and very weak!!!
Valentines were called Montys (Montgomeries) Staghounds becouse they chased Romels troops across N. Arfica.
Armored allmost as good as the Matilda II (a small tank with more armor than a T-34) they were upgunned to 6lbs.
Valentines can be compared to PzIII.

Archer was a better tank destroyer than Achilles - it had a lower profile. If you want a tank destroyer with lots of armor get a real tank!

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Re: Best Tank Destroyer
« Reply #29 on: July 05, 2010, 11:07:58 PM »
The varity of british tanks is pretty cool.. maybe we will get a reward unit for the firefly for example or one of the churchill call-in tanks.


But the best tank destroyer is surely the jagdpanther or the Gwagen - i agree.