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Conscripts without weapons....
« on: August 24, 2010, 09:31:12 PM »
You know what would be cool?.....would it be possible to make the soldiers in the Conscript unit who do not carry weapons, possibly "punch" or do some unarmed combat motion? Granted, it would barely do any damage, but at least they wont be useless...

Also, if the above idea is possible, would the DEVs be able to add some E-Tools (Entrenching Tools/Shovels) (Recieved at Vet1 or 2) which improve the damage given by the "unarmed conscripts"??
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Re: Conscripts without weapons....
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2010, 09:43:02 PM »
EF won't ever implement melee.
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Re: Conscripts without weapons....
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2010, 12:19:05 AM »
Its most likely impossible to code, nut it would be cool if the unarmed constipts could pick up dead soldiers weapons. It could be automatic when a constipt is right over it. Still it would be hard to make it work.
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Re: Conscripts without weapons....
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2010, 12:49:47 AM »
speaking of picking up weapons, does anyone know why the possibility of a German squad dropping their weapons, seems to have decreased? I almost never find lmgs or panzershreks on Ef. The Americans drop tons of stuff but not the Germans.
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Re: Conscripts without weapons....
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2010, 04:18:29 AM »
BlackBishop...why do you think that, brother? Just because the coding is too difficult or the fact they just wont do it?

Seeme...yeah thats what I thought man, doesnt hurt to ask though. :/
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Re: Conscripts without weapons....
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2010, 04:26:16 AM »
BlackBishop...why do you think that, brother? Just because the coding is too difficult or the fact they just wont do it?

Seeme...yeah thats what I thought man, doesnt hurt to ask though. :/
That was a fact not a thought, that decision was already taken some time ago, EF Team won't implement it. I don't think that is impossible, but they have other things to focus... coughOstcoughheercough.

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Re: Conscripts without weapons....
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2010, 06:27:34 AM »
speaking of picking up weapons, does anyone know why the possibility of a German squad dropping their weapons, seems to have decreased? I almost never find lmgs or panzershreks on Ef. The Americans drop tons of stuff but not the Germans.

I'm pretty sure only the LMG42 had a reduced chance to drop, down to 0.2. Remember that weapons are much less likely to drop when there is still squad weapon space, which is why I only ever get a single shrek on my gren squads. If you upgrade a squad with 2 shreks, they have a very good chance of dropping them (which I painfully experienced in one of the tourney games on my stormtroopers).
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Re: Conscripts without weapons....
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2010, 08:10:56 AM »
I think "passing" their rifles (like the bazookas, LMGs, etc) would be a better idea, there's nothing worse than having unarmed conscripts running around when their comrades are dead.

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Re: Conscripts without weapons....
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2010, 08:17:19 AM »
But I still wish that they would "meele" even if without animations. Same dmg as Mosin but only 5 max range.
I mean these constripts cost allmost as much as 2 squads of "trained" engies that can repair tanks, lay mines, lay down twice as much firepower as constripts.

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Re: Conscripts without weapons....
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2010, 04:38:18 AM »
Anyone tell me why the unarmed conscripts run towards the enemy ?  I mean I place the unit behind cover and the unarmed ones take off toward the enemy like sacrificial lambs?

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Re: Conscripts without weapons....
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2010, 04:43:44 AM »
Anyone tell me why the unarmed conscripts run towards the enemy ?  I mean I place the unit behind cover and the unarmed ones take off toward the enemy like sacrificial lambs?
Thats why I was hoping they could make em melle :/
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Re: Conscripts without weapons....
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2010, 01:25:54 PM »
idk, i mean i know it's a game but, sometimes i see firefights between guys face to face and they're at it for a good half a minute. O.o
how bad is their rifletraining?
I'm not talking about just conscripts i'm talking about all the factions basic infantry.

anyway, that's a big can of worms melee combat for CoH.
I mean if you want to take that route why not have infantry melee armour units? or soldiers jumping jeeps and motorbikes. chucking grenades down the access hatch of a tank or the like.

too damn long to make and keep it balanced i suspect.

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Re: Conscripts without weapons....
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2010, 05:21:55 PM »
I think "passing" their rifles (like the bazookas, LMGs, etc) would be a better idea, there's nothing worse than having unarmed conscripts running around when their comrades are dead.

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Re: Conscripts without weapons....
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2010, 09:59:24 PM »
idk, i mean i know it's a game but, sometimes i see firefights between guys face to face and they're at it for a good half a minute. O.o
how bad is their rifletraining?
I'm not talking about just conscripts i'm talking about all the factions basic infantry.

anyway, that's a big can of worms melee combat for CoH.
I mean if you want to take that route why not have infantry melee armour units? or soldiers jumping jeeps and motorbikes. chucking grenades down the access hatch of a tank or the like.

too damn long to make and keep it balanced i suspect.

No, just the conscripts melee. Nothing else
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Re: Conscripts without weapons....
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2010, 05:32:11 AM »
No, just give them invisible 0-0 damage rifles with the same range as mosin-nagants. The AI is terrible and needs a fix.
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