Company of Heroes: Eastern Front

Author Topic: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread  (Read 52313 times)

Offline Pac-Fish

  • Axis Commander
  • Poster of the Soviet Union
  • *
  • Posts: 2494
  • Waka Waka Gluba Gulba
    • View Profile
Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« Reply #180 on: February 04, 2012, 05:33:13 PM »
an interesting thing about the german panther tank is that in combat sherman's would fire at it at point blank range and it would do nothing.{spelling and not always but more often than a tank commander would like.}

In the words of the COH panther crew: "Krup steel and Porshe engines! Who can defeat us?", "German Steel!"

Can I ask was the FG42 and effective weapon? Not in COh I mean in RL ::). Did it have high recoil like games suggest ???

Om Nom Nom Nom
"Panzer-Guppy ready for battle!"
"Ha Ha Ha! We have the ZEAL!"
"Grenadiers! Fall In!!"

Offline conscript900

  • Ingenery
  • *
  • Posts: 34
  • long live the motherland!
    • View Profile
Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« Reply #181 on: February 05, 2012, 04:15:38 AM »
an interesting thing about the german panther tank is that in combat sherman's would fire at it at point blank range and it would do nothing.{spelling and not always but more often than a tank commander would like.}

In the words of the COH panther crew: "Krup steel and Porshe engines! Who can defeat us?", "German Steel!"

Can I ask was the FG42 and effective weapon? Not in COh I mean in RL ::). Did it have high recoil like games suggest ???
if memory serves right it was effective for its compatibility and was used often by the falschimjager.
the future soviet union lies in Kane's hands!

Offline Tankbuster

  • Allied Commander
  • Major
  • *
  • Posts: 761
  • I have no anti armor capability!
    • View Profile
Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« Reply #182 on: February 05, 2012, 10:38:49 AM »
It never got used in paradrops.
(un)official forum troll

In Soviet Russia, Forum troll You!

Offline conscript900

  • Ingenery
  • *
  • Posts: 34
  • long live the motherland!
    • View Profile
Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« Reply #183 on: February 05, 2012, 10:47:15 AM »
It never got used in paradrops.
surprising it was built for them.
the future soviet union lies in Kane's hands!

Offline Sommarkatze

  • Axis Commander
  • Commissar
  • *
  • Posts: 403
  • KCH should wear capes at vet 3 !
    • View Profile
Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« Reply #184 on: February 05, 2012, 02:45:43 PM »
The recoil was insane at full automatic. But with the bipod it was a good universal rifle that the paratroopers liked. However it was expensive to make.

My English is kind of useless. But that because Iam swedish Wooohoooj! ;3

Offline BurroDiablo

  • Developer
  • Poster of the Soviet Union
  • *
  • Posts: 3976
  • NYET!
    • View Profile
Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« Reply #185 on: February 05, 2012, 03:08:11 PM »
It never got used in paradrops.
surprising it was built for them.

After taking massive losses in Crete the Germans decided against future Airborne assaults... Fallschirmjäger were basically organised into elite motorised infantry divisions afterwards, in mid 1944 they stopped receiving Paratroop training altogether. FG42 was used during the successful glider mission to save Mussolini in 1943, and was probably used in the failed attempt to capture Tito in 1944... even though it was designed to be a handy Paratrooper weapon, it didn't get used much in Paradrops... by the time it was issued, Fallschirmjäger's paradropping days were over.

Offline Pac-Fish

  • Axis Commander
  • Poster of the Soviet Union
  • *
  • Posts: 2494
  • Waka Waka Gluba Gulba
    • View Profile
Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« Reply #186 on: February 05, 2012, 04:13:42 PM »
Did the FG42 have the same stopping power as a Kar98? StG44? Im just curious which is better :P

And can I ask whether or not the M1903 Springfield has greater distance than the M1 Garand. For some reason, the idea of putting a scope on a Garand came to me ;D

Om Nom Nom Nom
"Panzer-Guppy ready for battle!"
"Ha Ha Ha! We have the ZEAL!"
"Grenadiers! Fall In!!"

Offline Jeff 'Robotnik' W.

  • Developer
  • Mr. Spam
  • *
  • Posts: 1961
  • Forum historian
    • View Profile
Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« Reply #187 on: February 05, 2012, 07:02:55 PM »
^ from personal experience, i can say that they both perform similarly at range

Also its funny how the FG42 looks almost exactly like the american M1941 Johnson machine gun. they were both designed for similar purposes but neither design influenced the other


Offline Pac-Fish

  • Axis Commander
  • Poster of the Soviet Union
  • *
  • Posts: 2494
  • Waka Waka Gluba Gulba
    • View Profile
Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« Reply #188 on: February 05, 2012, 07:22:50 PM »
^ from personal experience, i can say that they both perform similarly at range

If they have the same range then why wasn't a scope placed on a M1 Garand ???. Its semi auto which is neat and instead of loading it bullet by bullet, you stick a clip in there. And I read that US snipers really disliked the M1903 sniper variant and often used the enemies :P

Om Nom Nom Nom
"Panzer-Guppy ready for battle!"
"Ha Ha Ha! We have the ZEAL!"
"Grenadiers! Fall In!!"

Offline conscript900

  • Ingenery
  • *
  • Posts: 34
  • long live the motherland!
    • View Profile
Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« Reply #189 on: February 05, 2012, 09:08:21 PM »
^ from personal experience, i can say that they both perform similarly at range

If they have the same range then why wasn't a scope placed on a M1 Garand ???. Its semi auto which is neat and instead of loading it bullet by bullet, you stick a clip in there. And I read that US snipers really disliked the M1903 sniper variant and often used the enemies :P
it was used in the pacific. IIRC
the future soviet union lies in Kane's hands!

Offline Pac-Fish

  • Axis Commander
  • Poster of the Soviet Union
  • *
  • Posts: 2494
  • Waka Waka Gluba Gulba
    • View Profile
Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« Reply #190 on: February 05, 2012, 09:55:17 PM »
I think it was used on all fronts :P. But does someone know the answer to my question ???

Om Nom Nom Nom
"Panzer-Guppy ready for battle!"
"Ha Ha Ha! We have the ZEAL!"
"Grenadiers! Fall In!!"

Offline conscript900

  • Ingenery
  • *
  • Posts: 34
  • long live the motherland!
    • View Profile
Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« Reply #191 on: February 05, 2012, 10:23:40 PM »
well you did ask if it was used ;D
the future soviet union lies in Kane's hands!

Offline Sommarkatze

  • Axis Commander
  • Commissar
  • *
  • Posts: 403
  • KCH should wear capes at vet 3 !
    • View Profile
Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« Reply #192 on: February 05, 2012, 11:19:22 PM »
In ww2 M1 garands with scopes were really really rare.However If we are going to out of the box straight rule box history I can surely think that some handy soldiers modified their M1 garands in the field and put captured scopes on them etc. What makes it easier to kill people, makes it easier to survive.

However in Korea and Vietnam they were much more common . ( Not standard rifle common but like, sniper rifle common XD)

Anybody know if the SS fallschirmjägers got their hands on fg42s btw? I know they used a various kind of equipment and uniforms but the fg42?
And I think that the Kar98 and Fg42 do have the same stoppingpower. Not identical but nearby each other. The stg44 uses a differant caliber however so I dont think so ^^

My English is kind of useless. But that because Iam swedish Wooohoooj! ;3

Offline Dann88

  • Soviet Commander
  • Major
  • *
  • Posts: 513
    • View Profile
Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« Reply #193 on: February 06, 2012, 03:03:45 AM »
There was a Fallschirm-Panzer Division, did they have airborne tanks? ???
I'm drunk now, I'm outranked you in philosophy.

Offline conscript900

  • Ingenery
  • *
  • Posts: 34
  • long live the motherland!
    • View Profile
Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« Reply #194 on: February 06, 2012, 07:59:04 AM »
There was a Fallschirm-Panzer Division, did they have airborne tanks? ???
i dont think so, america tried to develop a airborne tank though!
the future soviet union lies in Kane's hands!