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[1.4.0.0] Everything RBS
« on: May 28, 2011, 06:26:30 AM »
Ok so I hope everyone knows the new changes to strelky in general and more importantly RBS and their various weapon upgrades.

What does everyone think of the new 1.4 strelky? Do you even bother with PPSH anymore since its more expensive? Do you like the new DP-28's and their new ability?

I thought the RBS change would be the most controversial of the patch, I wont hide I was adamantly opposed to it.
 Personally I dont even bother with the RBS upgrade anymore its been completely removed from my strategy, just too expensive at 100muni AND 70 fuel now. Whats your views comrades?

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Re: [1.4.0.0] Everything RBS
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2011, 06:31:28 AM »
I think RBS upgrade should definately be cheaper so they are easier to obtain and come earlier, at a time when Soviets desperately need improved troops, but the weapons themselves need a minor nerf still.  This would also apply to the Sturm Ingies, which are really still abusive right now.

Hence, the upgrade is too expensive early game, and a tad too strong late game, mostly because of the veterancy Soviets get.
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Re: [1.4.0.0] Everything RBS
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2011, 06:42:07 AM »
Never liked RBS - ppsh are shit, 'cause the troopers are so low-health, and now it's expensive, and the upgrade is expensive too...
DP is better though, but the upgrade cost...

Overall: forget it! I'm not using them any more, that's for sure.
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Re: [1.4.0.0] Everything RBS
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2011, 11:02:34 AM »
The only way to beat it is to spam Guards or Veteran Guards - those totally OP guys are cheap as chips and fucking awesome  :o
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Re: [1.4.0.0] Everything RBS
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2011, 11:46:11 AM »
Quote from: IJoe on May 28, 2011, 06:42:07 AM
Never liked RBS - ppsh are shit, 'cause the troopers are so low-health, and now it's expensive, and the upgrade is expensive too...
DP is better though, but the upgrade cost...

Overall: forget it! I'm not using them any more, that's for sure.

ppsh being upped to 75 kinda made them a non factor anymore, dp28 synergizes a lot better. last game I went strelky I lost, Ill stick to my new strat
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Re: [1.4.0.0] Everything RBS
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2011, 11:49:07 AM »
I never used RBS strelky since 1.00000.

PPSH were OP, now they seem fine, but are costly, which is necessary. But all in all strelky are clearly outmatched by conscript/guards.

And anyway, it's so stupid when 2 or 3 retarded guys point a red flag to the ennemy...

No coolness factor, limited use compared to other soviet infantry...  ;D
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Re: [1.4.0.0] Everything RBS
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2011, 12:36:06 PM »
RBS are cool infantry, but since 1.4 they get... well, costly. Their upgrading in armoury cost is way too high, while upgrading better Guards is far cheaper. I personally build one squad of basic strelky at the beginning, then I just skip to Guards and Veteran Guards. They perform better ( nades, nades, nades xD ) and have this crayze DP-28 run&shoot. After Vet.1 MG42 isn't a trouble anymore... Strelky can't do this.

I guess the overall point of Strelky/Guards was to make Strelky main line infantry, while Guards are those 'bad guys' who everyone is feared of. And we have exactly opposite situation. I think GodlikeDennis has replay where me, him, Killar and other guys are playing. Since half of a game I just were using Guards, never bothered using RBS - too expenisve, too much teching ( 100 mun + next 75 for nerfed PPShs), too low health and overall they don't perform as they should.
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Re: [1.4.0.0] Everything RBS
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2011, 01:59:42 PM »
I'll be interested in the results of this poll.
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Re: [1.4.0.0] Everything RBS
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2011, 02:56:33 PM »
Personally, I don't.

I the games that I played yesterday I see only Guards and Naval Infantry spams (with TH).
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Re: [1.4.0.0] Everything RBS
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2011, 07:43:42 AM »
Now that Guards get DP-28 with the upgrade (only 25 fuel as I remember) Id rather have them (and a medic truck) than RBS.
Also 175ammo is too much for first PPSh squad, Id rather upgrade my Command Squad and get Molotovs.
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Re: [1.4.0.0] Everything RBS
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2011, 11:18:09 AM »
RBS is way too pricey compared to Shock Guards. And I don't want to see much more expensive Shock Guards. I guess the upgrade could take a fuel increase, but the RBS upgrade needs a serious reduction to be even halfway there worth it.
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Re: [1.4.0.0] Everything RBS
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2011, 08:36:17 AM »
so, 19-4 just as I suspected. thank you all for sharing your opinions and letting the team know that the RBS price increase is too expensive!
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Re: [1.4.0.0] Everything RBS
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2011, 08:37:19 AM »
Poll is biased.
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Re: [1.4.0.0] Everything RBS
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2011, 08:41:28 AM »
price is biased  :P
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Re: [1.4.0.0] Everything RBS
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2011, 12:00:09 PM »
bias? perhaps there is someone who really use those upgrade, but honestly I have never saw one..
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