[1.4] T70 vs PE halftracks and AC nerf

[SuperSoca]

that is wrong. Sorry.

[GodlikeDennis]

It is not, sorry.

[Paciat]

Right now Stuarts are much better at much Circlestrafing, (better acc while moving) fighting infantry and still do x2 dmg vs Marders (right now its as good at fighting Marders as M10s are). I think it was a buff.

Anyway T-70 should be buff-nerfed in the same way as Stuart was and most people will be satisfied.

[CesarCK777]

t-70 need to be nerfed, 2 shots kill PE vehicles to faster.

[SuperSoca]

Right now Stuarts are much better at much Circlestrafing, (better acc while moving) fighting infantry and still do x2 dmg vs Marders (right now its as good at fighting Marders as M10s are). I think it was a buff.

Anyway T-70 should be buff-nerfed in the same way as Stuart was and most people will be satisfied.

Yes, there is no problem with T70 against infantry or Marder. And Stuart is great in 2.602. The problem is just the damage against PE ligth armor. Only that.

But people can't understand the balance in this.

PS2: Afterday I come to attention to T90. He is doing damage against Wibblerwind, that suposedly have heavy armor (no damage from smal firearms). Maybe penetration values need to be reviewed.

2 T90 can kill a Wibblerwind alone. You can do the test and verify.
Today I will test if this is a T90 + Wiblerwind particularity. But this is subject for another topic.

[SuperSoca]

I'm not talkin about gameplay in this last posting, as 3Pastel1Choops play a way better than me (he is lvl 16 automatch, I'm 14/15 before patch).

Analize yourselves purelly the numbers:

Look at Kattenkrad and AC on about 11:00.

T70 one shot Katten, then take 60% life from a AC on the first shot.

Don't tell me that this damage is correct  . I consider this a bug... Its identical to Stuart 2.501.

You all can play with PE vs Ardorius (posted here on the another page), you cant win T70 spam, unless possibly you go TD doc.

PS: I'm don't trying to be mandatory or arrogant, instead I'm trying to show you that this issue with T70 vs PE AC and Halftracks need a adjustment, and T90 penetration vs Heavy armor as well.

[Blackbishop]

Don't worry T-70 was "buffed/nerfed" against PE light vehicles for the next patch .

[GodlikeDennis]

As Bishop said, we've already adjusted this in the same manner the Stuart was adjusted. Increased moving accuracy at the expense of the insane damage modifiers against halftracks.

[Killar]

Watched your replay.

I think it was a micro error from you that your atht died. It drove torwards the T70 that had a destroyed engine. Also you let him cap the map in the begginning though he had a weak unit start (3x engi)

[RedGuard]

Watched your replay.

I think it was a micro error from you that your atht died. It drove torwards the T70 that had a destroyed engine. Also you let him cap the map in the begginning though he had a weak unit start (3x engi)

thats usually the case around here, and then when the replay emerges its like uhhh... theres nothing wrong with the unit its your play!

[SuperSoca]

Don't worry T-70 was "buffed/nerfed" against PE light vehicles for the next patch .

GodlikeDennis

Great to hear that people! I knowed that you would understand the point that I was saying. 

That's because I decided to using Eastern Fronts to make the Europe War Tournament, as you give attention to this important details and make necessary changes.

I was afraid to look as a "crying loser", then I tryied to supply maximun information and theoretical basis for explaining my point of view and the pro's (not me) opinnions.

I think EF is GREAT and already has a good balance, and that will be so much more balanced in the future.
Post Merge: June 25, 2011, 08:35:36 PM

thats usually the case around here, and then when the replay emerges its like uhhh... theres nothing wrong with the unit its your play!

Yeah I know that its the majority of cases, but you must agree with this posting as i'm no fanboy of no faction and showed solid facts.