Mg42 HMG replacement from a reward unit suggestion.

[Mattdamon07]

would it be alright to make reward unit to replace the Mg42HMG team. It would still be a 3 man squad with one or two MG42 LMG. i think it would fit in an eatern front because of the axis being constantly on the move. manpower would be increased to 300 or more. and the backup guy will be equipped with a Kar98

[Max 'DonXavi' von B.]

If you want LMG42s, go get Panzergrenadiers and equip them with it, just adding a new unit that has the same weaponry is just boring, sorry. Furthermore, such a key unit like HMG42 shouldn't be changed IMO.

[Pantherturm]

I guess you're suggesting an enhanced version(faster suppression) of the Wehrmacht standard LMG for the replacement. So for me it's like a better gren squad being able to even replace regular grens(they cost the same + free LMGs) as first line fighting unit instead of support. Anyway a squad that is able to move like normal infantry and having that impact(fast suppression) in every engagement is unfair. I've come to this conclusion cause you didn't mension deployment time for the weapons(if there is any) and i've also guessed they will be firing while not moving like grens do.

[Mattdamon07]

but thay will have penalties, and maybe raising the cost to 350. The penalties will be decreased movemnt speed and slower supression

[GodlikeDennis]

Such an incredibly key unit will never be changed. It would mess with early game balance too much.

[Cranialwizard]

If you want LMG42s, go get Panzergrenadiers and equip them with it, just adding a new unit that has the same weaponry is just boring, sorry. Furthermore, such a key unit like HMG42 shouldn't be changed IMO.

(Didn't you mean grens?)
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Such an incredibly key unit will never be changed. It would mess with early game balance too much.

You two nailed it while I was asleep it seems!

Such a topic doesn't even need to be discussed because controversial early-game units shouldn't be changed for the sake of balance.

[Paciat]

What would that unit do that Volks with or without MP40 cant do?

[Paladin88]

(absolutely nothing)

Uhhh, besides if you want that combo cant you just get grenadiers and research the light MG-42 upgrade twice??

[Sommarkatze]

You could always use the concept for my Italian mg squad? Once upon a time I worked some bit for an italian faction. But that like many other things I start never got finished XD However, They would have the Breda mg but you could switch that to mg37 or something else cool looking

However, what this mg is unique to the differant mg is that its deploy faster than the regular mg42. However it was based on the Breda which is mag fed so it had to reload much oftener than the mg42. which the enemy then can take advantage of.

It could maybe also have an abilety called turkey shoot or something , cost 45 ammu?
This make the mg rather kill instead of suppress for maybe 25 sec? This means the enemy will take tremoundus damage if being fire on. But they wont get suppresed.

The balancer is going to hunt me down big time ( I actually wrote bladerunner the first time lol XD) but thats at least something if you now want a reward unit for the mg

[RedGuard]

Such an incredibly key unit will never be changed. It would mess with early game balance too much.

haha +1
although as a reward it wouldnt be gone forever

[Dot.Shadow]

One thing you really need to write about when suggesting a new unit, or when writing about changes to an already existing one, is WHY you think your addition/change should be included, not just what it is.

[HyperSniper999]

Did German infantry even work like the unit you suggest?

The MG42 in-game is a defence weapon in the form of an HMG, and a Squad Automatic Weapon with grenadiers. It wouldn't be the same without the squad.

[Paladin88]

I think it's NOT a very useful idea, MG42 HMG technically is more mobile ever since the patch Relic released (it unpacks/packs faster). I see no real advantage in doing what is suggested and 300 manpower for that is much too cheap since panzergrenadiers or even stormtroopers/ knights cross costs 360 manpower approx for Mp44 which has better damage/effect.

I'm sorry, its a NO from me.

[Mattdamon07]

yeh didnt think it would go to well.

[Paladin88]

you just lack experience at the moment, when I started out, even I spurted out utter nonsense but give yourself some time to settle in. Welcome to EF, mate.