maximizing your CP gain

[GodlikeDennis]

Booby trap strategic points - 2nd ability on the LHS of scorched earth. It reduces the cooldown of the ketty booby trap from 120 to 25s.

[pariah]

Sweet! Thanks, mate. I'll have to remember that for when i play Panzer Elite again.

[Seeme]

Ahh, I already noticed this a year ago, just didn't know it was a super myth!

[cephalos]

Ahh, I already noticed this a year ago, just didn't know it was a super myth!

well, some ppl, like me don't care about things like that. Somebody made it 120 secs, so let it be. That's why balance isn't my favourite stuff to do 

[pariah]

I gotta say, i prefer it like that. It's so you can't spam Booby Traps at the beginning of the game. It's a good idea to not get the quicker recharge until later.

[Walentin 'Walki' L.]

The panzerelite has a lot of "hidden" abilitys.

I.e. the panzergrenadiers get a mobility bonus if the panzer jäger kommand has been constructed (source: Corsixs mod studio).

[Otto Halfhand]

It amazed me how many people truly believed that schwimms were weaker than ketties before the myth got busted...

Could this myth be revisited. I don't imagine Schwimms are weaker than Kets but I have never been able to get as much utility from them as I do with Kets.

[Chancellor]

It amazed me how many people truly believed that schwimms were weaker than ketties before the myth got busted...

Could this myth be revisited. I don't imagine Schwimms are weaker than Kets but I have never been able to get as much utility from them as I do with Kets.

The only practical useful skill on the Ketten is the Luftwaffe's camo ability to scout for the 88 and Marder.  The other 2 skills are useless.  For the Swim, all three skills are useless, which makes it, along with the Hotchkiss, the most useless reward unit from the whole ToV selection.

You really got to ask yourself: Do I seriously need to select a different unit (with the same stats) for the sole purpose of just capping points?

[GodlikeDennis]

Ketty/Schwimm are identical except for their abilities and the Schwimm is faster across water. I would say the only useful abilities are stealth on the luft ketty and mines on the TH Schwimm.

[RedGuard]

TD repair is handy for me when PGs are running around chasing grunts and you have low health ACs/HTs

[Killar]

cloaked ketten + Nashorn are very powerful

[Otto Halfhand]

THe mine laying ability is much better on the Schwimm than on the MuniHT. It can get into tighter places.
The repair ability on the ket is most helpful in supporting front line units. I assume it takes triple damage, but it also absorbs a good number of sniper shots.
The best of the Kets abilities IMO is boobytrap SP. I have never discovered a counter to those boobytraps and Strategic use of the ket really can be helpful early game. I hope BB gets to the bottom of the recharge glitch vis a vis recharge rate/Defensive Ops. It works right in 2.602 but not v1.4.0.

[Seeme]

Yea, Booby traps is really great early game. If the opponent dosent notice, they get creamed. Or it at least delays the capping.

[pariah]

And Don't underestimate the power of Mark Target (Schwimmwagen/Luftwaffe).

[Chancellor]

The problem with the other 2 abilities of the ketten aside from cloak and all 3 abilities on the swim is that they have little practical use in higher level play.  They look good on paper, but they actually suck.

An example is like the TH ketten repair.  Yea you could argue that "wow! the ketten can now repair everything!"  But when you actually think about it, your ketten would probably be more useful capping more points than actually helping repair with its shitty repair rate.  If left alone to repair a low health AC alone, it would probably take it a over a full minute...  Same with the Swim mine laying thing.  How many times do you actually use it in a game?  Perhaps once or twice, considering the cooldown, and a regular mine is better anyways.

As I mentioned in my previous posts, the only ability that outshines capping would be spotting for the 88 / Marder from the Luftwaffe camo.  There's actually times that the whole balance of the game depends on whether you went Luftwaffe AND ketten or not, since spotting is so crucial sometimes.  Luft cloak is also the only way you can spot for well protected snipers in higher level play too.  Good luck trying to reveal snipers with a swim or a uncloaked ket...you will get raped by AT gun / small arms fire before you even get close.