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Offline HyperSniper999

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Remote Hetzer MG
« on: July 19, 2011, 06:37:40 PM »
Has anybody noticed that Hetzers used an MG that isn't manned by anybody? Did the Germans really figure out how to make remote control weapons by 1944? I can't see how a weapon like that can work without technology from the past two decades.
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Re: Remote Hetzer MG
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2011, 06:59:23 PM »
THe 38T series had ball mounted MGs. It is unlikely that the co-axial mount was locked into the main gun, but maybe. The Drivers MG could be fired "remotely" -while driving, low accuracy that way.
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Re: Remote Hetzer MG
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2011, 07:12:46 PM »
It was able to be used by the commander with the help of a periscope and an extended trigger. So it wasn't remote controlled but operated from the safe inside.
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Re: Remote Hetzer MG
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2011, 07:55:09 PM »
Howewer, you couldnt reload it without going outside ;) So they had to be careful!
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Re: Remote Hetzer MG
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2011, 08:08:37 PM »
What was the ammo capacity and rate of fire? And was this system used on any tanks other than the Hetzer?

Also, why don't people use these in modern times? It's obviously much safer than sticking your head out...
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Re: Remote Hetzer MG
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2011, 08:08:48 PM »
I saw that StuG III, StuG IV and Jagdpanzer IV had also "remote MG". In game it works "perfect". In real life... I think that it's only scared infantry for that they didn't come closer to tank. And MG looks like it could not be lifted up and down, so perhaps this accuracy was very low. I'm not an expert, so i could be wrong in this thing.

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Also, why don't people use these in modern times? It's obviously much safer than sticking your head out...

They using it. For example tank Abrams, Merkava.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2011, 08:47:30 PM by TheDzierzanPL »
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Re: Remote Hetzer MG
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2011, 08:23:32 PM »
It would be an mg34 firing the 7.92 round. With about 800-900 rounds per minute?
However I have read that those were loaded with ammo drums with 50 rounds. However it did exist ammo drums with 75 rounds that were modifyed.

And I Think this werent so effective. You had hard time aiming with them . You only had a little periscope :3
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Re: Remote Hetzer MG
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2011, 08:29:39 PM »
In C.O.H. the periscope only offers a sight and range increase; The M.G. still operates without it. Wouldn't it make more sense then if the upgrade activated the secondary gun?
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Re: Remote Hetzer MG
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2011, 08:35:13 PM »
Hehe yeah actually it would ^^ However, most tank mgs in COH sucks big time and are most for looks XD
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Re: Remote Hetzer MG
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2011, 08:37:54 PM »
Well, at least it would make sense for this gun to suck. :D
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Re: Remote Hetzer MG
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2011, 08:39:31 PM »
Quote from: Sommarkatze on July 19, 2011, 08:35:13 PM
Hehe yeah actually it would ^^ However, most tank mgs in COH sucks big time and are most for looks XD
Imagine a COH with realistic tank MGs.. AT infantry would have a hard time getting close to your tanks.. :P
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Re: Remote Hetzer MG
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2011, 08:40:12 PM »
Quote from: Sommarkatze on July 19, 2011, 08:23:32 PM
It would be an mg34 firing the 7.92 round. With about 800-900 rounds per minute?
However I have read that those were loaded with ammo drums with 50 rounds. However it did exist ammo drums with 75 rounds that were modifyed.

And I Think this werent so effective. You had hard time aiming with them . You only had a little periscope :3
Hetzer carried 1200 rounds for secondary armament. Didn't the MG34 use cloth ammo belts for AFV use?

http://www.wehrmacht-history.com/heer/anti-tank-vehicles/jagdpanzer-38-t-hetzer-panzerjaeger-38-t-fuer-7.5-cm-pak-39.htm
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Re: Remote Hetzer MG
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2011, 08:45:11 PM »
Quote from: MaxiKing6 on July 19, 2011, 08:39:31 PM
Imagine a COH with realistic tank MGs.. AT infantry would have a hard time getting close to your tanks.. :P
In the beginning, the Sherman M.G. upgrade cost 100 Munitions! :o ::)
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Re: Remote Hetzer MG
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2011, 09:39:28 PM »
Quote from: pariah on July 19, 2011, 08:45:11 PM
Quote from: MaxiKing6 on July 19, 2011, 08:39:31 PM
Imagine a COH with realistic tank MGs.. AT infantry would have a hard time getting close to your tanks.. :P
In the beginning, the Sherman M.G. upgrade cost 100 Munitions! :o ::)
And Offmap 105 arti 200ammo as I remember. M-8 upgrade costs were higher too.
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Re: Remote Hetzer MG
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2011, 10:10:36 PM »
Quote from: Otto 213 on July 19, 2011, 08:40:12 PM
Quote from: Sommarkatze on July 19, 2011, 08:23:32 PM
It would be an mg34 firing the 7.92 round. With about 800-900 rounds per minute?
However I have read that those were loaded with ammo drums with 50 rounds. However it did exist ammo drums with 75 rounds that were modifyed.

And I Think this werent so effective. You had hard time aiming with them . You only had a little periscope :3
Hetzer carried 1200 rounds for secondary armament. Didn't the MG34 use cloth ammo belts for AFV use?

http://www.wehrmacht-history.com/heer/anti-tank-vehicles/jagdpanzer-38-t-hetzer-panzerjaeger-38-t-fuer-7.5-cm-pak-39.htm

I dont know to be honest. But according to the picture in the Panzertales books it have drummags :o
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