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Dynamic LoS
« on: April 09, 2012, 12:02:33 AM »
I've only seen one strategy game implement a dynamic line-of-sight system: World in Conflict. For people who don't know what I mean, dynamic LoS means that units see (and shoot) farther, but their view can be blocked by buildings, forests, etc. My question is: Is it possible to implement dynamic LoS in Company of Heroes?

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Re: Dynamic LoS
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2012, 04:05:34 AM »
I believe the folks working on the Coh Afrika Korps mod are attempting this. I expect it is too not-vCoh as regards EF, and might spoil greater acceptance in the MP market. Great idea though. I would like to see LOS modifications for weather conditions and time of day incorporated into your Idea. Maybe in CoH2?
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Re: Dynamic LoS
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2012, 04:23:58 AM »
Company of Heroes already has a semi-dynamic LOS. Your troops won't fire at what they can't see. (Example: Hide behind the church, hide behind the hedge, hide behind the tall stone wall)
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Re: Dynamic LoS
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2012, 04:32:26 AM »
Yeah like if there is a flipped over truck your troops can hide behind it even if the enemy is on the other side of that truck. I had to learn this the hard way >_<

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Re: Dynamic LoS
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2012, 04:34:15 AM »
Company of Heroes already has a semi-dynamic LOS. Your troops won't fire at what they can't see. (Example: Hide behind the church, hide behind the hedge, hide behind the tall stone wall)
Hide your kets behind a hedge and cap on the other side.
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Re: Dynamic LoS
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2012, 06:01:15 AM »
^^THIS^^ is what I'm kind of worried about. I don't like how, even if you can't shoot, you can still magically see through buildings and such. It provides a magic safety net in crowded areas. I hwant to see a cityfight that is real hell, because you can see a long way down the streets, but not around the corner. :P
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Re: Dynamic LoS
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2012, 10:49:15 AM »
Men of War has dynamic LOS. Even it you are looking in certain direction you can't see infantry laying in the bush, ditches, craters or just behind the building. This added to one-shooting tanks with panzerfaust... just  ;D

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Re: Dynamic LoS
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2012, 12:51:37 PM »
^^THIS^^ is what I'm kind of worried about. I don't like how, even if you can't shoot, you can still magically see through buildings and such. It provides a magic safety net in crowded areas. I hwant to see a cityfight that is real hell, because you can see a long way down the streets, but not around the corner. :P
IF you want to increase the fog of war for your own enjoyment, don't use the tactical map and set your camera POV real low to the ground. You may still get a red image of your opponent but its closer to the experience you indicate you want.
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Re: Dynamic LoS
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2012, 01:51:38 PM »
^^THIS^^ is what I'm kind of worried about. I don't like how, even if you can't shoot, you can still magically see through buildings and such. It provides a magic safety net in crowded areas. I hwant to see a cityfight that is real hell, because you can see a long way down the streets, but not around the corner. :P

The ketty is really the only unit that can do this. You could say its special

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Re: Dynamic LoS
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2012, 02:46:33 PM »
Its Special +3  :)


Edit:
http://www.gamereplays.org/companyofheroes/portals.php?show=page&name=totw_wehr27
 there is another article dealing specifically with kets on gamereplays.org -can't find it though
 
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Re: Dynamic LoS
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2012, 07:38:57 PM »
I've also noticed that when firing over hills shots will sometimes go THRUGH the terrain. This is most easily seen with MGs because of their high volume of fire and the tracers they use. Kind of what I'm talking about, kind of.
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Re: Dynamic LoS
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2012, 09:29:01 PM »
I noticed when AT guns fire on elevated terrain, they often hit the hill :(

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Re: Dynamic LoS
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2012, 12:42:02 AM »
Sometimes tank and other cannon shots hit the hill, though I believe I've seen them go through on rare occasions as well.
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