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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2010, 10:02:05 PM »
If you make something normally buildable...it can't really be that good...as a capped one off callin in...we can cheese it up as much as we want really  ;)
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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2010, 02:24:08 AM »
well what if you made the Tiger a slightly less powerful attack but same armor? 700MP 150 Fuel 3 unit cap
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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2010, 12:08:13 PM »
If you make something normally buildable...it can't really be that good...as a capped one off callin in...we can cheese it up as much as we want really  ;)
So there's only a small possibity to see them being buildable?
Thanks!  :)
Seriously, allowing the Ostheer to build Tigers would really take away from the Blitz-Doc of the WH, even if the OH-Tigers would be worse...
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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2010, 05:26:36 PM »
Seriously, allowing the Ostheer to build Tigers would really take away from the Blitz-Doc of the WH, even if the OH-Tigers would be worse...
I thought Blitz is about the allmighty British killers - the stormrtoopers...

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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2010, 05:51:52 PM »
 the Tiger tank was very often used Number of pieces: 1355

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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2010, 06:40:22 PM »
I don't think the Ostheer should have the Tiger one tank or the Panther as a build able unit. The Panther tanks are not needed if you play wisely. The Panzer elite Tank destroyer tactic makes the Panther tank useless, with the Hetzers and Jadgpanther. The Luftwaffe can use fallschirjager ad attack vehicles from behind with ease, not to metion the butterfly mine drop and HSC-129 strike. And the Scorched Earth could rely totally on the Hummel to destroy the enemy.

  The tiger tank, while its main role was in the Eastern front, it was not built in great numbers, so it could not be built in a factory. 
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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2010, 06:49:24 PM »
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well what if you made the Tiger a slightly less powerful attack but same armor? 700MP 150 Fuel 3 unit cap


Then it would become a more expensive Panther you can spam in 2v2+ games....no point as it will serve the same purpose...German main heavy is the Panther...Tiger is the 'German special'

No, Tiger has to be a 'legend' like it was...aka in coh terms a super tank
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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2010, 07:26:18 PM »
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well what if you made the Tiger a slightly less powerful attack but same armor? 700MP 150 Fuel 3 unit cap
Then it would become a more expensive Panther you can spam in 2v2+ games....no point as it will serve the same purpose...German main heavy is the Panther...Tiger is the 'German special'
No, Tiger has to be a 'legend' like it was...aka in coh terms a super tank
Thats why I want a normal, very expensive (800MP/200Fuel) non veted Tiger I with a one on the field limit. There will be no spamming it.
A doctrinal a KT for the wermacht, Jagdpanther for PE and a Tiger ace (or an Elephant) for the Ostheer "can be a 'legend' like it was".
Or maybe 1 legendary unit per German fraction is not enough?

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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2010, 01:05:34 PM »
Can any mod please change the poll or start a new one?
Right now it doesn't make any sence at all.
It should be more like:

Do you want Tiger-tanks to be buildable for the Ostheer?
  • Yes!
  • No! Make them a Doctrin call-in instead.
  • No! I don't want any Tiger for the Ostheer.
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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2010, 03:14:13 PM »
What if you want them to be call-inns, but non doctrinal? ;D

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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2010, 06:35:00 PM »
you should  just make them expensive.I.E.1000 MP, 100 MU, 200 F,pop 20 that way other players really have some time to prepare themselves. The Ostheer needs something heavier, or else people Will just play against them as the US to get heavy tanks and slaughter them.
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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2010, 08:17:53 PM »
IF the Tiger costs more than the IS-2 then it should perform better than the IS-2.
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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2010, 12:10:12 AM »
It usually does. I haven't tried it but I don't think the IS-2 can take out a tiger 1v1 my post was to resolve the "tweaking" matter, so the stats aren't modified, just the price.
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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2010, 12:49:12 AM »
okay the tiger, for gods sake.

Everybody wants it to be in the Ostheer,
but there has to be a solution which makes it
usefull and also non OP.


Thats the problem.

What are the suggestions which where actually made to
include the tiger IN the ostheer, let me think about it..



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the idea of putting it right in the Tank factory next to the panther.

-> the problem of this idea is that its too easy to get a tiger tank like this, because the tiger is still stronger than a IS2. Also no any german faction can build tigers, especially not right away.



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The idea of making it being a doctrinal call in. In gernal, a Tiger Ace. The black skin was mentioned several times, for example by me in my earlier concept ;)

-> This sounds probably like the best solution. BUT, this way the Wehr tiger would loose its coolness, because the Ace should be more compareable like a king tiger. In gernal, a upgraded tiger with special abilities.
This would probably kill the feeling of the wehr tiger.





3.

The 3rd solution was the idea of bringing it into your tank factory via a dotrinal late game upgrade. Tiger Number limited to 2 at the same time.


-> This idea comes with a lot of originality. It would rather be another doctrinal call in unit or just a big beast rolling out of your factories right away.
The disadvantage of this solution is, that its hard, i mean really hard to get a tiger like this. But hmmh, maybe its the best solution because remember, its still a tiger ;)




Just to clarify the tiger problem a bit,

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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2010, 01:17:39 AM »
Here is another option that solves the immediate problem and the Call on super tank problem, make it doctrine specific built out of the Tank Factory, this would eliminate the spam with a limit to 2-3 Tigers on the field and the early late game spam because you need to get the CPs for it...