A trailer of the fictional "re-re-release" of Saving Private Ryan is then shown where similar edits have been made; the soldiers' guns have been digitally changed to walkie talkies, and the word "Nazi" has been changed to "persons with political differences". The four complain about how directors edit their movies to make them more family-friendly or politically correct. Finally, the movie they came to see appears, but not before a banner is displayed on the screen (and also read by an announcer) to note the word "Wookiee" has been changed to "hair challenged animal" and that the entire cast has been digitally replaced by Ewoks.
I think most of you forget, that the majority of the Waffen-SS was in no way "better", more professionel or anything like that than the Wehrmacht.After all, the impression of their "eliteness" was based on a very, very few hand-selected units, which indeed were equipped better than other units and fight till their death, when Wehrmacht-units would have instead retreated, reinforced and built up a new line rather than dying for an unimportant piece of land a complete retard think it has to be held till the last bullet is shot.
SS where brutal and violent soldiers, more than any others element of allied forces, including soviet army. Their purpose was, like ostheer, to exterminate soviet union, but their fanatism allowed them to slaughter civilians by thousands when a basic german soldier cant, because of his humanity. SS are, in my eyes, not only bad troops comparing to others Heer Divisions, but also massive murderers without pity.
Not sure where this debate is going guys. We've made it quite clear that we won't name any unit as 'SS' no matter what the historical arguments may be about the waring nations.In all armies ,without real exception, there were units,soldiers,commanders who in one way or another were involved in war crimes as the war dragged on. There was also a lot of ideology involved in that war, making it all the more bitter.As the winners are always the ones who write the history in the following years, you'll always have a lot more focus/examination directed on the war crimes of the losers while anything nasty from the winning side gets blurred/brushed aside as much as possible. This makes the winner feel all the better about the outcome of the war creating a much larger moral victory over the opponent. The Nazis bombed London and other cities with the sole aim to kill civilians and promoting terror-War crimeBritish/US firebombed Dresden and other cities with the sole aim of killing civilians and promoting terror-War CrimeUS nuked 2 islands full of civilians promoting terror-War CrimeThere is only one war crime/atrocity people know/remember despite the fact that all the others actually caused a lot more civilian victims.War is an ugly business where the 'civil rules' quickly blur/evaporate regardless of age. Its as dirty now, as it was in ww2. What constituted a war crime back then, constitutes a war crime now. As it it was back then, so it is now, the winner writes the history and decides what is labeled a war crime or collateral damage and who gets prosecuted (You'll never see a the winner get prosecuted regardless of the blatant truth)
The 'Charlemagne' division was as brutal as any other SS division on the eastern front, perhaps more! They are regarded has traitors by the entire France. I approve totally the execution of them, because thats the treatment for the "traitres à la Patrie". They were scum, and France is very ashamed by these men.
EDIT: Zerstörer, you've forgot soviet, who bombs Finnish and Germans cities when they can, with Bombers or even with artillery. Some cities where properly destroyed: my mother borned in Beelitz, near Berlin, and she tell me that the citie was entirely devastated. For the same 'reason' that British or american.