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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #75 on: April 20, 2010, 12:06:34 PM »
Tigers can be killed by flanking, almost easily.

And if you destroy/damage their engines, which is very easy to do with Tiger/King Tiger, you've got them screwed. Artillery can take care of it from there.
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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #76 on: April 20, 2010, 04:08:07 PM »
Tigers can be killed by flanking, almost easily.
King tigers can be killed like that, but not a smart Tiger-ass since this tank is simply to fast.

And if you destroy/damage their engines, which is very easy to do with Tiger/King Tiger, you've got them screwed. Artillery can take care of it from there.

True their engines brake down very easily, esecially the one of the KT.

But did you ever used artillery against these tanks? They are pretty much useless against a tiger and against a KT its just useless since art. pieces bonce off. Only off-map art. works fine against both.

Nevertheless there should be a limit on the tigers since its simply a hell machine. I made a big post about that some weeks ago, i could quote it here and you would understand that than, for sure.

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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #77 on: April 20, 2010, 10:37:08 PM »
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True their engines brake down very easily, esecially the one of the KT.

But did you ever used artillery against these tanks? They are pretty much useless against a tiger and against a KT its just useless since art. pieces bonce off. Only off-map art. works fine against both.

Nevertheless there should be a limit on the tigers since its simply a hell machine. I made a big post about that some weeks ago, i could quote it here and you would understand that than, for sure.

If your lucky, Mortars tend to damage and can destroy engines quite easily, provided you make a hit.

105s are good for Anti-Tigers.

The artillery firebase of the soviets is too inaccurate. But God of War could come in handy (:<
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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #78 on: April 21, 2010, 01:49:29 AM »
Soviet firebase can hit very well if you aim it right ;)
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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #79 on: April 21, 2010, 03:55:38 AM »
In my experience it has been rather inacurate. Its a little more accurate a close range, but by then you might as well just use the heavy-mortar.

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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #80 on: April 21, 2010, 04:03:58 AM »
I beg to differ, I get great results out of the firebase when I need to.
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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #81 on: April 21, 2010, 08:22:39 AM »
Akalonor means that he's using Arty spotter ;) - Sniper team or Commander spot ability isn't it? Because the Soviet arty is more accurate if shooting somewhere where you can actually see...

But back to topic - Tiger could be build from factory and if it have appropriate cost I don't see why it shouldn't. You can't compare it to Wehr Tiger because Ostheer wouldn't be Wehr. It would have different veterancy and different cost. Because if Wehr player loses Tiger he just buy new one with same veterancy for 900MP so then it is pain in the ass because it is really cheap and quite hard to beat with vet3.

However I agree that it could be problem with PC skirmish when AI Ostheer have more resources... but it sure will not be problem when playing Basic match or Automatch i.e. vs humans.

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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #82 on: April 21, 2010, 11:03:25 PM »
Don´t know why you people are so enthusiastic about building tigers.

1. Main battle tank on eastern front was the Panzer IV not the tiger.

2. First coh used 2 Tigers as a call in but this option was reduced to one Tiger, because two Tigers were already too heavy

3. If you can build more than 2 Tigers out of factory you have to make them weaker than Wehr tiger because of balancing.

But that is crap!

Imagine you play as Ost your teammate as wehr and he has a better tank than you though you both use the same vehicle!

IN addition it isn´t historical. Can´t remember tiger´s used on the Eastern Front were weaker than on western front.


I think it would be better to have a Tiger battle group consisting of 2 Tigers as a call in, not as doctrinal.

As balancing i would make a high pop or/and you cannot use other tanks in your Ostheer if you choose to use a battlegroup

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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #83 on: April 22, 2010, 07:29:42 AM »
OR you can do this

890MP 150 Fuel 14 Pop Doctrinal Buildable Unit with a 2 Unit cap and doesn't vet but still as strong as Blitz Tiger vet 0


Guess what you solved the problems!

that wasn't so hard.... now was it?

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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #84 on: April 22, 2010, 04:14:25 PM »
OR you can do this

890MP 150 Fuel 14 Pop Doctrinal Buildable Unit with a 2 Unit cap and doesn't vet but still as strong as Blitz Tiger vet 0


Guess what you solved the problems!

that wasn't so hard.... now was it?

Perfect yes. I guess this problem has already been solved in these forums. And i still think that the doctrinal buildable limited Tiger is the best idea at all.


But 700MP should actually be enough with that amout of fuel. But just if they are limited to 2.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2010, 04:16:20 PM by Venoxxis »

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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #85 on: April 23, 2010, 02:38:17 AM »
Akalonor means that he's using Arty spotter ;) - Sniper team or Commander spot ability isn't it? Because the Soviet arty is more accurate if shooting somewhere where you can actually see...

No actually, I'm talking about the Firebase.
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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #86 on: April 23, 2010, 03:42:29 AM »
yea, I could see it being a doctrinal-buildable unit. thats how the king tiger was done im BotB mod.
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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #87 on: April 23, 2010, 07:18:45 AM »
And BK mod, except all tanks(except simple ones like Pz E ( , WW  , etc ) are like that, quite a pain to get panthers, but they are super in game, and their skins are shiny  ;D
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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #88 on: April 23, 2010, 08:13:53 AM »
No actually, I'm talking about the Firebase.

That's why I meant too - but to use some unit which can spot at longer distance. I have feeling that firebase shoots more precise if you order to fire somewhere where you can actually see on the map, in your unit's visual range. And commander has Spot ability, and Sniper team could increase the sight range with other Spot ability (then they don't move).

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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #89 on: April 26, 2010, 09:39:58 PM »
I dont care which way, Tigers are Tigers, Id prefer them be called in, but I can adapt.

 HOWEVER, on a lighter note, you know what a great mod would be? Secret Weapons of WW2.
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