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Re: Kat too weak compared to IRL? Is balance part of the equation?
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2010, 04:55:00 PM »
Less rockets, but more damage per rocket. Also, keep it inaccurate.  That should make it more like IRL.
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Re: Kat too weak compared to IRL? Is balance part of the equation?
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2010, 10:17:16 PM »
Maybe same(or More) rockets but higher AOE damage, it would suit the purpose better.
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Re: Kat too weak compared to IRL? Is balance part of the equation?
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2010, 10:43:35 AM »
katushya is fine as it is in my opinion.

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Re: Kat too weak compared to IRL? Is balance part of the equation?
« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2010, 01:27:15 AM »
I can't believe Nuclear warhead got 6 votes, this ISNT science fiction!!
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Re: Kat too weak compared to IRL? Is balance part of the equation?
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2010, 02:37:42 AM »
katushya is fine as it is in my opinion.

My opinion as well, just let them stay as they are.
A blob of kats is crazy strong already. And thats quite ok for balance as well.

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Re: Kat too weak compared to IRL? Is balance part of the equation?
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2010, 02:04:11 PM »
They are so squishy, if you do not move them they will die from counter battery and sometimes a suicide stug, 600+ MP down the toilet. I still think it should get a small vehicle damage buff, against half tracks primarily and nothing else. I am not looking to kill tanks with the bastard and the infantry damage is already horrifying. They still take up more MP and pop cap per damage capita than a calliope.

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Re: Kat too weak compared to IRL? Is balance part of the equation?
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2010, 04:52:38 PM »
Ialways wodered how in-game colliopes are so good yet soo bad.
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Re: Kat too weak compared to IRL? Is balance part of the equation?
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2010, 09:15:04 PM »
Ialways wodered how in-game colliopes are so good yet soo bad.
Callioppe was good... long time ago. before patch 1.5. It could use main turret (but every rocket barrage cost was 150 muni -_-). Every next patch was making them weaker and weaker. Sometimes 2 callies firing at one volks squad can't kill them. I can PROVE IT.
versions 1.0-1.7 (except 1.71 when WB was broken) were the best... no-one heard about "balance", but crazy firing callioppe, max 3 pershings with badass range and hit power... and KT which was same Tiger with better stats was pure fun :D
About katyushas... leave them as they are. but one advice - NEVER, NEVER rush with them. I dunno how, but katyusha is just truck with some pipes (and rockets xD), US M3 is just trick with optional 4xMG... M3 can survive 2 panzershrecks, sometimes more, and katyusha can be taken out with MG42 in... 15sec?
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Re: Kat too weak compared to IRL? Is balance part of the equation?
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2010, 11:32:02 PM »
Thought something was a little off when the colliope didn't shoot back, They are still annoying but not much of a game ending threat.
If You're saying US M3 is a little OP than I agree.
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Re: Kat too weak compared to IRL? Is balance part of the equation?
« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2010, 02:58:28 PM »
Well the m3 has armor against small arms, about .75 inches while the kat is just a dang Studebaker truck lol.

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Re: Kat too weak compared to IRL? Is balance part of the equation?
« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2010, 12:26:37 AM »
They are so squishy, if you do not move them they will die from counter battery and sometimes a suicide stug, 600+ MP down the toilet. I still think it should get a small vehicle damage buff, against half tracks primarily and nothing else. I am not looking to kill tanks with the bastard and the infantry damage is already horrifying. They still take up more MP and pop cap per damage capita than a calliope.

It's a friken truck. A truck couldn't even deflect 9mm rounds. what makes you think that it should deserve armour protection.

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Re: Kat too weak compared to IRL? Is balance part of the equation?
« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2010, 06:21:37 PM »
I did not say anything about armoring it, just the fact that it is so easy to kill them it is almost not worth getting them at this point when a stuka zu fuss is essentially invulnerable to counter fire from anything the Russians have (firebase is to inaccurate and the stuka has often moved after misses and a non direct hit will not even kill it).

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Re: Kat too weak compared to IRL? Is balance part of the equation?
« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2010, 08:19:39 PM »
it's all about movement. like the nebelwerfer you have to move it after each barrage to protect it from enemy arty fire.
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Re: Kat too weak compared to IRL? Is balance part of the equation?
« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2010, 08:32:24 PM »
maybe if it had the same Armour as a "Stuka Halftrack" could do the job ?

Personally i think the "kat" has too much propaganda inside itself, it can ram troops down. once its near infantry and drive around them, they die :(
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Re: Kat too weak compared to IRL? Is balance part of the equation?
« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2010, 11:14:51 AM »
maybe if it had the same Armour as a "Stuka Halftrack" could do the job ?
While I agree the Kat is a soft target, if we're going to be fair on the Stuka zu Fuss, it was based on the Sd.Kfz. 251 halftrack, which was covered in armored plating.  The stuka should in my view be a little easier to harm with arty and other weps from above (it was open topped after all) but it should be a harder target to take out than the kat since (as posted above) the kat was based on a regular truck.